Post by shmeep on Dec 3, 2020 11:26:47 GMT
full week 1 CID rules are now available.
There's too much going on for me to be able to cram it all into a single post and add my thoughts in a meaningful way, but here's a few:
- Shyeel jacks all go up to MAT7, Vyre jacks all go up to RAT6.
Aeternae is 1 point cheaper than a Banshee, has +2 RNG on the gun, POW8 armor piercing. Axes both have 2" reach and are 17/15, so 1 POW less than the Banshee.
Looks like an excellent Jack overall, but I don't think I'd call it busted. A 14" AP gun is very strong, but the chassis is too expensive to spam.
- Aelyth now GRANTS Last Word to all Ryss, from the second he hits the table until the game ends. Together with native tough+steady there's no way this passes through CID in this state. We had some fun talks in the Discord about how completely Firetrucking stupid a Ryss mirror match would be.
Ello:
- Swordsmen now have Gang, they hit almost as hard as Sentinels with it - MAT8 POW14. CA now grants Overtake. Excellent damage output and very potent infantry clearing potential, looks like. With Falcir Rapid Strike their output can be insane.
- Wardens are medium base, SPD6, 8/14 pts, 12/17 Unyielding 5 boxes. Axes are 2" POW15 crit amputation. Parry and Cleave like Swordsmen, they're basically almost the same package as the swordsmen but hit a bit harder, potentially a lot more if they can land crits, and with the solo they gain side step which means they can dig in pretty deep and clear infantry pretty well too. With Thyron's feat they can have a decent chance to land crits and do terrible, terrible things to heavies.
- Thyron gets Marshal: Side Step instead of Cleave, feat becomes +to attack rolls and Killing Spree on the entire army. Consensus seems to be this should probably be nerfed, especially with Side Stepping jacks that is pretty terrifying. also gains Fury.
- Falcir is absolutely insane. very likely she'll be nerfed, right now she has FOC7, bounty marks she can place on 2 enemy models/units right after deployment, feat lets her place another 3, and she has a COST 2 RNG 8 zap that applies a bounty. Effects are -2 SPD, army wide Prey, no magic attacks + no ranged attacks, lose one die on melee attack rolls, and on feat she has a token that lets models can reroll damage rolls on target. spell list is pretty good too, Full Throttle, model/unit Rapid Strike, Price to Pay (the bounty zap), and something else.
Jaden says it's almost guaranteed she's going on the brawl ban list, and if her auto-bounty mechanic stays I'm inclined to agree.
Right now Bounties are basically COST2 cryx debuffs that she can also auto apply. Hungerford apparently said they're seriously considering changing it to COST3, at least.
-Ellowuyr Warden Executioner, the new solo, looks very strong for its price. It grants Wardens side step and has it himself, cleave, dual attack, SPD6, POW15 crit amputation 2" on both axes, two RNG10 POW12 guns and they have chain attack: vortex that does another POW12 AOE. considering they cost as much as Valka they seem too strong to me, but we'll have to see.
Shadows:
- Repo 5" and Ambush on infiltrators. Eyriss3 gains mark target.
- MHSF have unit wide Dispel on the CA.
- Narn has vet leader Sprint now.
Now don't forget this is week 1, most likely they're sticking with the method of pumping (almost) everything up to high heaven and then working back from there.
There's too much going on for me to be able to cram it all into a single post and add my thoughts in a meaningful way, but here's a few:
- Shyeel jacks all go up to MAT7, Vyre jacks all go up to RAT6.
Aeternae is 1 point cheaper than a Banshee, has +2 RNG on the gun, POW8 armor piercing. Axes both have 2" reach and are 17/15, so 1 POW less than the Banshee.
Looks like an excellent Jack overall, but I don't think I'd call it busted. A 14" AP gun is very strong, but the chassis is too expensive to spam.
- Aelyth now GRANTS Last Word to all Ryss, from the second he hits the table until the game ends. Together with native tough+steady there's no way this passes through CID in this state. We had some fun talks in the Discord about how completely Firetrucking stupid a Ryss mirror match would be.
Ello:
- Swordsmen now have Gang, they hit almost as hard as Sentinels with it - MAT8 POW14. CA now grants Overtake. Excellent damage output and very potent infantry clearing potential, looks like. With Falcir Rapid Strike their output can be insane.
- Wardens are medium base, SPD6, 8/14 pts, 12/17 Unyielding 5 boxes. Axes are 2" POW15 crit amputation. Parry and Cleave like Swordsmen, they're basically almost the same package as the swordsmen but hit a bit harder, potentially a lot more if they can land crits, and with the solo they gain side step which means they can dig in pretty deep and clear infantry pretty well too. With Thyron's feat they can have a decent chance to land crits and do terrible, terrible things to heavies.
- Thyron gets Marshal: Side Step instead of Cleave, feat becomes +to attack rolls and Killing Spree on the entire army. Consensus seems to be this should probably be nerfed, especially with Side Stepping jacks that is pretty terrifying. also gains Fury.
- Falcir is absolutely insane. very likely she'll be nerfed, right now she has FOC7, bounty marks she can place on 2 enemy models/units right after deployment, feat lets her place another 3, and she has a COST 2 RNG 8 zap that applies a bounty. Effects are -2 SPD, army wide Prey, no magic attacks + no ranged attacks, lose one die on melee attack rolls, and on feat she has a token that lets models can reroll damage rolls on target. spell list is pretty good too, Full Throttle, model/unit Rapid Strike, Price to Pay (the bounty zap), and something else.
Jaden says it's almost guaranteed she's going on the brawl ban list, and if her auto-bounty mechanic stays I'm inclined to agree.
Right now Bounties are basically COST2 cryx debuffs that she can also auto apply. Hungerford apparently said they're seriously considering changing it to COST3, at least.
-Ellowuyr Warden Executioner, the new solo, looks very strong for its price. It grants Wardens side step and has it himself, cleave, dual attack, SPD6, POW15 crit amputation 2" on both axes, two RNG10 POW12 guns and they have chain attack: vortex that does another POW12 AOE. considering they cost as much as Valka they seem too strong to me, but we'll have to see.
Shadows:
- Repo 5" and Ambush on infiltrators. Eyriss3 gains mark target.
- MHSF have unit wide Dispel on the CA.
- Narn has vet leader Sprint now.
Now don't forget this is week 1, most likely they're sticking with the method of pumping (almost) everything up to high heaven and then working back from there.