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Post by mandra on May 20, 2020 7:44:47 GMT
How you handle the matchup and what are our best pieces to deploy?
In particular can I play a good jack list vs crucible? they're immunities prevent casterkill and enemy jack to be damaged from fire(1 die less).
edit:
how do you see this list?
War Room Army
Protectorate of Menoth - Exp
Theme: Exemplar Interdiction
75 / 75 Army 0 / 20 Specialist
High Executioner Servath Reznik - WJ: +28
- Hierophant - PC: 3
- Guardian - PC: 15
- Indictor - PC: 14
- Judicator - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
Scrutator Potentate Severius - PC: 0
- Redeemer - PC: 11
- Redeemer - PC: 11
Exemplar Warder - PC: 0
Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0
Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0
Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honor Guard - Rhoven, Gius & Cassian: 9
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Post by paradox on May 20, 2020 17:47:46 GMT
Not sure Rez1 is the way. Hes fairly prone to getting shot down, and you only have a single shield guard there.
What play I have had vs CG has been mainly casual. Often vs Locke or Syvestro. I focus on taking out their jacks, usually with ARM cracking of one sort or another. So I think EI, FM, or CM can all do well in that respect. Just make sure you have a caster that can hide, or is well-protected from lots of gunfire.
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Post by mandra on May 20, 2020 22:17:06 GMT
Not sure Rez1 is the way. Hes fairly prone to getting shot down, and you only have a single shield guard there. What play I have had vs CG has been mainly casual. Often vs Locke or Syvestro. I focus on taking out their jacks, usually with ARM cracking of one sort or another. So I think EI, FM, or CM can all do well in that respect. Just make sure you have a caster that can hide, or is well-protected from lots of gunfire. Thank'you! if it were for you what would you play?
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Post by paradox on May 21, 2020 1:50:49 GMT
Not sure Rez1 is the way. Hes fairly prone to getting shot down, and you only have a single shield guard there. What play I have had vs CG has been mainly casual. Often vs Locke or Syvestro. I focus on taking out their jacks, usually with ARM cracking of one sort or another. So I think EI, FM, or CM can all do well in that respect. Just make sure you have a caster that can hide, or is well-protected from lots of gunfire. Thank'you! if it were for you what would you play?
Like I mentioned, its mainly been casual play, so I was literally dropping whatever I was playing at the time. Ive done Feora1 for example. Not optimal or intuitive, but she still has some game in that she can Ignite to swap damage buffs, not every list is all fire- immune (like rocketmen), and you can focus on killing threats to her in piece trade, then deliver her EoD to face. And at 15/17 fire immune, just add a no KD effect and shes really durable. Where its harder to hide Rez and he doesnt camp well. Thyra can have game if you watch for Guidance. Cyrenia in FM should do well. It really depends what kind of CG though. |
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Post by mandra on May 21, 2020 9:29:36 GMT
Thank'you! if it were for you what would you play?
Like I mentioned, its mainly been casual play, so I was literally dropping whatever I was playing at the time. Ive done Feora1 for example. Not optimal or intuitive, but she still has some game in that she can Ignite to swap damage buffs, not every list is all fire- immune (like rocketmen), and you can focus on killing threats to her in piece trade, then deliver her EoD to face. And at 15/17 fire immune, just add a no KD effect and shes really durable. Where its harder to hide Rez and he doesnt camp well. Thyra can have game if you watch for Guidance. Cyrenia in FM should do well. It really depends what kind of CG though. Thank’s!more or less the list is as follow: Syvestro, Double railless, double dragon’s breath, steelhead halbardiers, liberator, soppressor, toro. |
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Post by paradox on May 21, 2020 14:34:12 GMT
Vs Syvestro I usually focus on taking out the heavies and assault troops. So a slow grind, watching out for assassination vectors.
Railless are out of my regular CG opponent's price range, so I have no practical experience. But you do have some hardy stuff with a low model count. Treat the railless like shooting heavies, I'd say. Look to piece-trade out the two heavies and 2 BEs. Because you're facing Syvestro, I'd avoid Cyrenia because she can be upkeep dependent with her wall. Thyra can work with Gates of Death to help keep her back and safe. Stranglehold can work for pinning stuff down. Silence of Death gives you the damage buff.The feat and BoM give you some silly threat ranges. You're just going to have to work around Purification by applying buffs only when needed.
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Post by paradox on May 21, 2020 14:36:35 GMT
I really enjoy this Thyra list. You might have to figure out how to employ judi vs your opponents list though.
Theme: Exemplar Interdiction
75 / 75 Army
Thyra, Flame of Sorrow - WJ: +29
- Hierophant - PC: 3
- Blood of Martyrs - PC: 16
- Judicator - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 29)
Wrack - PC: 1
Scrutator Potentate Severius - PC: 0
- Fire of Salvation - PC: 14
Exemplar Warder - PC: 0
Exemplar Warder - PC: 0
Exemplar Cinerators - Leader & 4 Grunts: 13
- Exemplar Cinerator Officer - PC: 5
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 4
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Post by mandra on May 21, 2020 23:05:27 GMT
I really enjoy this Thyra list. You might have to figure out how to employ judi vs your opponents list though. Theme: Exemplar Interdiction 75 / 75 Army Thyra, Flame of Sorrow - WJ: +29 - Hierophant - PC: 3 - Blood of Martyrs - PC: 16 - Judicator - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 29) Wrack - PC: 1 Scrutator Potentate Severius - PC: 0 - Fire of Salvation - PC: 14 Exemplar Warder - PC: 0 Exemplar Warder - PC: 0 Exemplar Cinerators - Leader & 4 Grunts: 13 - Exemplar Cinerator Officer - PC: 5 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 4 Thank you! Need to try some infantry! In the end I played this list: War Room Army Protectorate of Menoth - Qmon Theme: The Faithful Masses 75 / 75 Army 0 / 20 Specialist High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza - WJ: +29 - Crusader - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Crusader - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Dervish - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7) - Dervish - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2) - Dervish - PC: 7 - Sanctifier - PC: 14 - Sanctifier - PC: 14 - Devout - PC: 9 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0 High Paladin Dartan Vilmon - PC: 0 Paladin of the Order of the Wall - PC: 0 Wrack - PC: 1 Wrack - PC: 1 Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Holy Zealots - Leader & 9 Grunts: 12 - Monolith Bearer - PC: 3 Not bad at all, but I should drop 1or2 wrack for 1more mechanik, when railless shoot really hurts.. free tracers and marrowan archon are also an annoying problem.. crucible guard won 7/2, however I’m a newbie and I committed some mistakes! |
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Post by greytemplar on Jun 26, 2020 2:00:42 GMT
Not sure if you still need help with this, but Feora4 is probably the answer to Crucible. She says screw your immunities, I"M ANGRY! YOU WILL BURN!!! NOASBESTOSARMORWILLSAVEYOU!!!
She is also built for running jacks. Hellwrought, Firestarter, and Road to War are an awesome combo with Field Marshal Aggressive. She'll also have plenty of targets that are relatively easy to hit with Scorn.
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