dpal666
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by dpal666 on Feb 9, 2020 2:07:04 GMT
Hey all,
It's been a few years since I last played. End of MK2 beginning of MK3. Used to be into the tourney scene on the west coast. Then work transfers, and lack of player base in new towns made me shelf everything for a while. Now I'm looking at transferring to a new area, that should have a player base again.
that said... looking over the tourney lists for the last year, I'm noticing that for Protectorate, it's pretty much been harby and something else in every pair. Looking over the lists that place, my collection is 3/4 never touched.
My previous go to lists were an Amon jank list that my locals said would never work (Ranged jack spam),
Amon Reckoner x2 Repenter x2 Vanquisher x2 Templar Vigilant
Min Choir x2 Vassal x2 Heirophant Covenant
Kreoss 1 popndrop Reckoner x2 Repenter x2 Tristan 0
Redeemer x2 Max Errants +CA Max Zealots + CA Vilmon Paladin x2 Nicia Covenant Rhupert Choir max
Sevy 1 turd polisher, or Ol Man Vinny.
Now, If I go into purchase mode to try to get the models that the tourney lists are all running, I'm going to be out $1300 in new models, which would suck (and get the wife to yellin).
Taking a mostly MK2 collection, what would be some good lists that would still be competitive? (no, I never did buy into the themes that much, so I didn't pick up Kreoss 2)
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Post by greytemplar on Feb 9, 2020 2:41:19 GMT
Nothing about those lists won't work anymore. But you could do some quick and dirty upgrades for cheap.
First off, you could get Sevy0 instead of Tristan in your Popndrop. More focus and Eye of Menoth for everybody. Need I say more?
Vinny is as good as ever, and he has more weapon masters then ever to work with. You can either go Exemplar Interdiction for maximum weapon masters, or go vanilla and get some other choices in(like Monks).
For stuff to just get your collection up to date, I would get
Sevy0: Eye of Menoth on a stick. And he can be free in several themes. Again, Eye of MENOTH! for 6 points! 6 points!
Exemplar Warder: Basically a Knights Exemplar Seneshal with defensive/bodyguard abilities instead of just "3 Sword slaps to the face". Great bodyguard for your caster or another important model.
At least 1 unit of Paladin initiates: 3 durable shield guards that aren't bad combat dudes either.
Maybe, if you have the cash, get a Shrine. Its a great recursion tool that can bring up to 3 dudes back a turn. Plus it has a good gun that can shred infantry clumps.
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dpal666
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by dpal666 on Feb 9, 2020 3:28:51 GMT
OK,only thing I could think of for Kreoss 1 was FM, but I'm really not sure on the look of the list. With current collection, only adding Sevvy0... conflictchamber.com/?c2201b_-1q171U1U1U1U9x9x9x9x241Lme3C3z3z2_2_Protectorate [Theme] The Creator's Might [Amon 1] High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza [+29] - Crusader [10] - Crusader [10] - Crusader [10] - Crusader [10] - Repenter [8] - Repenter [8] - Repenter [8] - Repenter [8] - Templar [15] - Vigilant [9] - Hierophant [0(3)] The Covenant of Menoth [0(4)] Vassal of Menoth [0(3)] Vassal of Menoth [0(3)] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] conflictchamber.com/?c2201b_-1r1l2222mfm03p2_lZlZ2mbQ2j2jProtectorate [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction [Vindictus 1] Vice Scrutator Vindictus [+29] - Reckoner [16] - Reckoner [16] Exemplar Errant Seneschal [0(3)] High Exemplar Gravus [8] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Exemplar Cinerators (max) [13] Exemplar Cinerators (max) [13] Exemplar Errants (max) [16] - Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard [0(4)] Knights Exemplar [9] Knights Exemplar [9] conflictchamber.com/?c2201b_-1p0y1r1G1G243E3r3r3C3z3z3B3B3B2_2SjI2ijI2iProtectorate [Theme] The Faithful Masses [Kreoss 1] High Exemplar Kreoss [+29] - Devout [9] - Redeemer [11] - Redeemer [11] - Templar [15] High Paladin Dartan Vilmon [0(6)] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [0(4)] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] The Covenant of Menoth [4] Vassal of Menoth [0(3)] Vassal of Menoth [0(3)] Wrack [1] Wrack [1] Wrack [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Deliverer Skyhammers (max) [13] Holy Zealots (max) [12] - Monolith Bearer [3] Holy Zealots (max) [12] - Monolith Bearer [3] I have no clue how these would stack up in the current meta though. |
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 10, 2020 9:51:54 GMT
there is a big difference in current and local meta.
i noticed that current LOCAL meta is all about beefing up. big pieces that are just tanky as Firetruck or annoying to deal with.
there isn't much gooing on in swarming and when there is its still very durable models.
edit: legit annoyed how often folks ask if i have paladin iniates for loan.
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dpal666
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Post by dpal666 on Feb 10, 2020 14:47:24 GMT
there is a big difference in current and local meta. i noticed that current LOCAL meta is all about beefing up. big pieces that are just tanky as Firetruck or annoying to deal with. there isn't much gooing on in swarming and when there is its still very durable models. edit: legit annoyed how often folks ask if i have paladin iniates for loan. yeah, i've noticed that almost every list out there has huge bases, but I never picked any up in MK2. I used to be the goto for people wanting to borrow models. Now though, since I don't have any of the lastest and greatest, I probably won't have to worry about that.
I'm probably also close to the only Amon player that owns 0 Dervishes
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Post by charlzheimer on Feb 10, 2020 14:51:57 GMT
there is a big difference in current and local meta. i noticed that current LOCAL meta is all about beefing up. big pieces that are just tanky as Firetruck or annoying to deal with. there isn't much gooing on in swarming and when there is its still very durable models. edit: legit annoyed how often folks ask if i have paladin iniates for loan. yeah, i've noticed that almost every list out there has huge bases, but I never picked any up in MK2. I used to be the goto for people wanting to borrow models. Now though, since I don't have any of the lastest and greatest, I probably won't have to worry about that.
I'm probably also close to the only Amon player that owns 0 Dervishes
alot of the huge bases aren't collosals fortunately. provided your not playing against menoth. if you can get your hands on the collosal kit from menoth its definetely worth as an option. |
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dpal666
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by dpal666 on Feb 10, 2020 17:52:18 GMT
Judi/Rev has been on my purchase list for a lot of years now. With the moves, and lack of playtime, it's been a very back burner item.
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