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Post by anoddman on Dec 18, 2019 19:14:16 GMT
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Post by Kevin on Dec 18, 2019 19:21:29 GMT
Quite happy with Dozer, Bomber, Slugs, Burrowers changes. Kinda fun with Blitzer, Lookout changes - accuracy, especially in this theme force is not a problem. Don't own Scutters, still not gonna. I would prefer for them to have mini feat assoult, but the double shoot maybe ok. Scouts have niche with their axes. No changes to Impaler with cheaper Bomber is the biggest negative suprise. Anyway happy, will have plenty of time during christmas to work with some lists  |
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Post by elricaltovilla on Dec 18, 2019 19:24:40 GMT
Impaler desperately needs help but is also probably among the least likely trolls to get an update thanks to PP's stance about updating battle box models.
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Post by anoddman on Dec 18, 2019 19:27:37 GMT
Impaler desperately needs help but is also probably among the least likely trolls to get an update thanks to PP's stance about updating battle box models. Which is crazy, because they've updated so many battlebox models. Still not sure why the Impaler missed the boat here. |
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Post by elricaltovilla on Dec 18, 2019 19:33:32 GMT
Impaler desperately needs help but is also probably among the least likely trolls to get an update thanks to PP's stance about updating battle box models. Which is crazy, because they've updated so many battlebox models. Still not sure why the Impaler missed the boat here. You're preaching to the choir brother. Frankly the troll battle box is terrible. I recommend Ragnor, EBDT, Pyre, Winter to anyone who wants something more balanced and still appropriately trolly. |
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Post by anoddman on Dec 18, 2019 19:44:50 GMT
Which is crazy, because they've updated so many battlebox models. Still not sure why the Impaler missed the boat here. You're preaching to the choir brother. Frankly the troll battle box is terrible. I recommend Ragnor, EBDT, Pyre, Winter to anyone who wants something more balanced and still appropriately trolly. I like that a lot! I'll have to start recommending that to people. Works well with moving into Storm of the North too. As for updates, definitely wasn't expecting a 17-point Bomber. I will likely be putting 7 points of Burrowers into most KC lists for awhile. |
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Post by mydnight on Dec 18, 2019 19:44:55 GMT
Don't know how they can ignore the RAt of Bushwhackers  CRA is not an excuse to give a shooting unit rat 4. Scattergunners are now potentially interesting with our damage buffing casters, as a whole slew of shots are pretty good. Horgle 2 comes to mind. Blitzer is still weak. Slag looks good now. |
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Post by anoddman on Dec 18, 2019 19:54:13 GMT
Don't know how they can ignore the RAt of Bushwhackers CRA is not an excuse to give a shooting unit rat 4. Scattergunners are now potentially interesting with our damage buffing casters, as a whole slew of shots are pretty good. Horgle 2 comes to mind. Blitzer is still weak. Slag looks good now. You might've missed it, but Bushwhackers are also RAT 5 now. |
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Post by skurkious on Dec 18, 2019 20:12:27 GMT
Hey we got our Slag back!! (thinking like groove... oh nevermind...)
I think Scattergunners look awesome now. Rat 6 sprays for days is really good especially with clear! and the marked target option. Mortality or Calamity and they could be threatening heavies.
Gonna have to get my burrowers dusted off and try them out again.
Was already working on a double scouts tournament list. This change just made it a bit more realistic! ;-p
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Post by mandra on Dec 18, 2019 20:20:08 GMT
really hoped some improvement also for highwayman but overall this is a starting point so I'm good with it
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Post by mydnight on Dec 18, 2019 21:06:31 GMT
You might've missed it, but Bushwhackers are also RAT 5 now. They are not mentioned in the errata document, and in warroom, the base unit went up to Rat5 , but the UA are still Rat5 and 4. Something fishy is going on |
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Post by anoddman on Dec 18, 2019 22:00:36 GMT
You might've missed it, but Bushwhackers are also RAT 5 now. They are not mentioned in the errata document, and in warroom, the base unit went up to Rat5 , but the UA are still Rat5 and 4. Something fishy is going on Dang, I asked about it and Hungerford said War Room had a typo. Bushwhackers are still RAT 4. They're still playable, that one just stung a bit. They're in most of my KC lists. |
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Post by mydnight on Dec 18, 2019 22:40:48 GMT
They are not mentioned in the errata document, and in warroom, the base unit went up to Rat5 , but the UA are still Rat5 and 4. Something fishy is going on Dang, I asked about it and Hungerford said War Room had a typo. Bushwhackers are still RAT 4. They're still playable, that one just stung a bit. They're in most of my KC lists. Yup warroom got updated again and they are back to Rat4. With the amount of options in the theme now, bushwhackers are difficult to squeeze in. Their only advantage is being mobile/slippery but they are neither accurate nor powerful enough to make up for their points typically, particularly with a 5 point UA. For 18 points you can get a battle engine, or Ledfoot+2 tanks. |
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Post by shmeep on Dec 19, 2019 0:46:52 GMT
Dang, I asked about it and Hungerford said War Room had a typo. Bushwhackers are still RAT 4. They're still playable, that one just stung a bit. They're in most of my KC lists. Yup warroom got updated again and they are back to Rat4. With the amount of options in the theme now, bushwhackers are difficult to squeeze in. Their only advantage is being mobile/slippery but they are neither accurate nor powerful enough to make up for their points typically, particularly with a 5 point UA. For 18 points you can get a battle engine, or Ledfoot+2 tanks. Yea, really don't what they're thinking. I saw someone say bushwackers are RAT 6 and regretted not getting them cheap,,but I guess it wasn't a mistake after all. |
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Post by anoddman on Dec 19, 2019 2:05:52 GMT
Yup warroom got updated again and they are back to Rat4. With the amount of options in the theme now, bushwhackers are difficult to squeeze in. Their only advantage is being mobile/slippery but they are neither accurate nor powerful enough to make up for their points typically, particularly with a 5 point UA. For 18 points you can get a battle engine, or Ledfoot+2 tanks. Yea, really don't what they're thinking. I saw someone say bushwackers are RAT 6 and regretted not getting them cheap,,but I guess it wasn't a mistake after all. Bushwhackers are still plenty playable at 13 points plus a Req point. We're sorely lacking in scalpel options to carve out support and they are excellent at it. Those little guys go on the frontlines every game I play them and shoot down Juniors, Caster attachments, key solos, etc. RAT 5 would've been a helpful change to make their 2-man CRAs more reliable when it comes to killing larger support units like Choir and Beast Handlers. I was excited by the prospect, especially since they're one of the few Troll shooting options that doesn't really benefit from Mark Target, but alas. EDIT: I know my opinion isn't necessarily a popular one, but I've easily got 20+ games with them since Oblivion dropped. I stand by them as a solid unit in the KC arsenal and my go-to for frontline infantry in the theme. |
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CRA is not an excuse to give a shooting unit rat 4.
