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Post by hocestbellum on Mar 4, 2020 15:48:09 GMT
I really like the scrolls, but the quality of writing is all over the place! Do they have different writers on different days or something? at least it is easy to read for a non native peoples) Haha, fair! It's not so much about the actual words for me so much as the content. Some bits are surprisingly impactful and well-written given the limitations of Twitter; Aurora's 2-part from the end of Feb is less than 100 words and really good from a character and plot perspective. Others are just 'Here is a cool character doing something cool', like Karchev being airdropped or Durgen blowing up all the things. Then you switch to HAUKE FELL IN A HOLE THEN GOT OUT OF THE HOLE THEN HE STABBED A THING. Nothing in that 8-part meaningfully advances the plot or develops a character, or even does anything cool. It's just poor storytelling.
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Post by allenkoholic on Mar 5, 2020 16:06:16 GMT
at least it is easy to read for a non native peoples) Haha, fair! It's not so much about the actual words for me so much as the content. Some bits are surprisingly impactful and well-written given the limitations of Twitter; Aurora's 2-part from the end of Feb is less than 100 words and really good from a character and plot perspective. Others are just 'Here is a cool character doing something cool', like Karchev being airdropped or Durgen blowing up all the things. Then you switch to HAUKE FELL IN A HOLE THEN GOT OUT OF THE HOLE THEN HE STABBED A THING. Nothing in that 8-part meaningfully advances the plot or develops a character, or even does anything cool. It's just poor storytelling. Yea, that wasn't particularly well-written, but it did advance the story, since the thing he stabbed was Axis. My only real issue is that some of the details aren't clear on first or second reading. Like, what's the black stuff at the bottom of the hole Hauke fell into? Or, how about a quick two-parter actually pointing out that Axis got shishkabbobed, instead of just stabbing a metal idiot with hammers. Killing off characters is a pretty big deal, but some of them aren't getting much screen time.
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Post by michael on Mar 5, 2020 17:35:13 GMT
You have to leave something for the readers to figure out. I don’t think it’s necessary to hand-hold readers through every detail. In fact, that would be detrimental.
We’ll probably find out that Axis turns around and splats Hauke because he is alive and therefore his essence chamber wasn’t destroyed, like Hauke imagined.
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Post by shmeep on Mar 5, 2020 17:52:15 GMT
this bothered me too. I instantly recognized the character as Axis, then I stopped for a bet and thought if there's maybe a generic convergence trooper with dual hammers, since there's no way they'd kill off a warcaster like this. I think Michael's prediction is right. If it isn't I think that's just mediocre writing. If you had characters being killed off throughout the battle, but only mentioned in passing and not by name, I'd be more fine with it, but only having it happen once is just odd.
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Post by fanguad on Mar 6, 2020 13:01:26 GMT
Can we talk about Ayn Vanar, tho? Makes me proud to be Khadoran.
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Post by drakkenblut on Mar 6, 2020 14:59:04 GMT
Ayn is a hardass. Is this her first fluff appearance?
Killed her nwould be assassin herself, and can command the Butcher. Contrast with queen of LLael. Sidenote, Butcher IMHO would be an easy soul to mark - he wants Lola, nothing else metters to him, and Infernals can give her/it to him, or appear to, right?
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Post by drakkenblut on Mar 6, 2020 15:04:16 GMT
What is this well of souls thing?
Also, what do you think is the endgame of all of this? Infernals will sweep the land, but their expense in souls will be so great that they will retreat - however, a portal to Caen for them is open and smaller scale invasions will happen from time to time, as a profitable soul collecting campaign can be made, and another threat of the whole world falling to them lingers. Also, there are all those souls that went to Cyriss, in whatever form awaited them on the other side - what becomes of them, once Caen is saved? I bet at least some will want to return.
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Post by thelat on Mar 6, 2020 18:35:26 GMT
What is this well of souls thing? Also, what do you think is the endgame of all of this? Infernals will sweep the land, but their expense in souls will be so great that they will retreat - however, a portal to Caen for them is open and smaller scale invasions will happen from time to time, as a profitable soul collecting campaign can be made, and another threat of the whole world falling to them lingers. Also, there are all those souls that went to Cyriss, in whatever form awaited them on the other side - what becomes of them, once Caen is saved? I bet at least some will want to return. I think their well of souls is going to get attacked by another Infernal Order while the guardian is on Caen.
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Post by Azahul on Mar 9, 2020 0:10:53 GMT
So the fifth big, big Henge Hold summation is up if anyone prefers reading it in that format: home.privateerpress.com/2020/03/06/henge-hold-scroll-summation-5/Mostly about the truly titanic battle around Henge Hold, as refugees flee to kick off the Warcaster setting and the assembled nations of Immoren try to keep Infernals at bay as long as possible. Interestingly though, there are a couple of stories (the Ayn Vanar one, for example) that seem to be looking ahead to the post-Oblivion world.
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Post by gupp on Mar 9, 2020 1:14:59 GMT
My guess on the Hexeris/ goreshade story:
Goreshade makes bargain to restore gods
Hexeris makes bargain (in secret) to grant the skorne more power, possibly magic.
So the alliance falls apart and we start seeing soulless skorne instead of elves.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 9, 2020 8:12:53 GMT
My guess on the Hexeris/ goreshade story: Goreshade makes bargain to restore gods Hexeris makes bargain (in secret) to grant the skorne more power, possibly magic. So the alliance falls apart and we start seeing soulless skorne instead of elves. I don't think either of them is going to bargain, especially Goreshade really hates the Infernals. It appears that Agathon is at their mercy, so, if it were possible, they could simply force him to do so, rather than bargain. I doubt restoring the gods is possible though, they're basically at the same level of being as the Infernals are and it's most likely they were simply consumed when the Infernals waylayed them.
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Post by zhoe on Mar 12, 2020 15:05:55 GMT
You have to leave something for the readers to figure out. I don’t think it’s necessary to hand-hold readers through every detail. In fact, that would be detrimental. We’ll probably find out that Axis turns around and splats Hauke because he is alive and therefore his essence chamber wasn’t destroyed, like Hauke imagined. axass deos not hav an assense chamber cuz he is not a robit man
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Post by michael on Mar 12, 2020 16:48:04 GMT
You have to leave something for the readers to figure out. I don’t think it’s necessary to hand-hold readers through every detail. In fact, that would be detrimental. We’ll probably find out that Axis turns around and splats Hauke because he is alive and therefore his essence chamber wasn’t destroyed, like Hauke imagined. axass deos not hav an assense chamber cuz he is not a robit man I know that. Hauke doesn’t.
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Post by Havock on Mar 12, 2020 23:26:11 GMT
That or Hauke finds out why ARM19 Unyielding + xboxhuge is a piss-poor target for his sword.
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Post by marxlives on Mar 18, 2020 19:05:35 GMT
this bothered me too. I instantly recognized the character as Axis, then I stopped for a bet and thought if there's maybe a generic convergence trooper with dual hammers, since there's no way they'd kill off a warcaster like this. I think Michael's prediction is right. If it isn't I think that's just mediocre writing. If you had characters being killed off throughout the battle, but only mentioned in passing and not by name, I'd be more fine with it, but only having it happen once is just odd. I don't know. Axis didn't transferred into a robot body. He is deed for shore.
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