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Post by shiza on Feb 20, 2020 21:17:42 GMT
Very interesting readings. And much more easy to read this language, comparing to other paper books.
Interesting, how they change mechanics with dead warcasters regarding on fluff?
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Post by Azahul on Feb 20, 2020 22:33:41 GMT
We've had dead 'casters before without any mechanical change. Mordikaar has been dead since the end of Mark 2, for example.
But boy, Mercs are really copping it. I was not expecting them to serve such a prominent role.
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Post by Aegis on Feb 21, 2020 6:29:51 GMT
A merc warcaster just died few hour ago in the space of a tweet?
Oh gosh...
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Post by Azahul on Feb 21, 2020 6:52:06 GMT
I think we're onto three dead Merc casters in the space of a week...
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Post by snoozer on Feb 21, 2020 10:20:09 GMT
I had a Fluff question just from the latest tweet. I understand that marked souls are the souls bound by infernal deals for them to harvest after death. But how is it with the non-marked souls? Do they actually "steal" them into the abyss as well? Or can they just use them in a Cryx like matter? The newest post stated that the aim of the infernal master was to get souls marked specifically. If it was just about harvesting and just collecting souls to then transport them into the abyss, this should not matter, right?
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Post by Gamingdevil on Feb 21, 2020 10:39:13 GMT
I had a Fluff question just from the latest tweet. I understand that marked souls are the souls bound by infernal deals for them to harvest after death. But how is it with the non-marked souls? Do they actually "steal" them into the abyss as well? Or can they just use them in a Cryx like matter? The newest post stated that the aim of the infernal master was to get souls marked specifically. If it was just about harvesting and just collecting souls to then transport them into the abyss, this should not matter, right? Basically, unless they get very creative, souls that are marked, can not escape their fate, and the Infernals can claim the soul at any time of their choosing, though typically at the end of a contract. Unmarked souls can only be collected upon death, so the Infernal Master must be nearby or some other agent must offer them up to them. Generally, souls go directly to their gods on death, so it's hard to track them down in Urcaen.
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Post by shiza on Feb 21, 2020 15:59:32 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls."
does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later?
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Post by thelat on Feb 21, 2020 16:09:17 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls." does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later? I think it means that Zaateroth made deals with them and they thought all they had to do was turn on their allies. But, they'll be turned into horrors.
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Post by sorokin on Feb 21, 2020 16:13:20 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls." does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later? I few tweet before that she mentions she is cutting deals with enemies faster than the speed of thought. Aka she cant force her enemies to strike deals with her, but they are becoming more willing to do it voluntarily via intimidation.
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Post by Charistoph on Feb 21, 2020 16:15:17 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls." does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later? I think it was the actions of the ones who turned who marked their own souls, but I could be wrong on that.
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Post by shmeep on Feb 21, 2020 17:42:46 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls." does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later? I think it means that Zaateroth made deals with them and they thought all they had to do was turn on their allies. But, they'll be turned into horrors. Pretty much. It's mentioned quite often in the fluff that bargaining with infernals never ends well.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Feb 24, 2020 8:44:55 GMT
last post: "Across the battlefield, the few dozen who saw the futility of fighting against her turned on their allies. It was not their strength of arms she desired, though. It was the mark now upon their souls." does this means that masters can force to mark soul of enemy and use them later? Infernals can cut deals with just about anyone and then those souls are theirs to do with as they please. Technically pretty much everyone that works with Infernals has had their souls "marked", but this doesn't translate onto the tabletop, because it would be quite overpowered. During the CID, all living models in the Infernal army were Marked Souls, but that meant that they didn't have to actually think about summoning because they could just sacrifice their chaff. Then it was changed to basically only use the named characters and Wretches, as a balancing tool. Most characters/spell casters are way more powerful in the lore than their representations in the game. See also: plot armor
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Post by jojobrunnix on Feb 24, 2020 21:02:32 GMT
Close. When everyone was a marked soul you didnt need to sacrifice to summon, just for essencd replenishment. When they introduced the summoning from marked souls in week3 they also took the rule away from cultist
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Post by sand20go on Feb 25, 2020 20:36:20 GMT
And if you are NOT digging the latest post (to avoid spoilers it involves Karchev) your soul is dead.
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Post by Azahul on Feb 25, 2020 20:56:18 GMT
Haha, they're clearly making up for their failings in the presentation of Khador in Stormbreak in just all the best ways
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