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Post by Azahul on Dec 9, 2019 0:08:08 GMT
To dig in a little deeper, gigantism is a common occurrence in Farrow, and results in their Warbeasts. The general way in which Farrow "Tuskers" (the Large Warbeasts) are born is when two of the light 'beast-sized Boars breed and, on rare occasions, give birth to notably gigantic offspring of their own.
The books also note that Arkadius enhances his experiments with growth serum, but Brine is a demonstration that the larger strains of Farrow can be achieved without scientific help. Theoretically, breeding Tuskers could lead to a Farrow of Gargantuan size.
On a side note, a small element of the Iron Kingdoms setting that I've always quite liked is that gigantism seems to be a reasonably established element across almost all species. We have a number of 7-8 foot tall humans, a couple of elves, the horses pulling Gun Carriages and serving as mounts for the Drakhun probably have their origins in such occurrences, and so on.
All of that said, I think I'd rather see Farrow get cavalry and support solos and unit attachments and generally more utility before we get a Gargantuan. We're in this weird position where our Warlocks are almost all battlegroup-focussed, so even though our infantry is in a pretty ok place independently it all suffers from a total dearth of support. And if we must get a huge base... a Pig Pen structure seems like a fun way to take things.
And a part of me kind of hopes that Oblivion sees some kind of Cygnar-Farrow alliance, rather than closer ties to any of the Hordes factions. Just because giving Arkadius a redemption arc seems like a fun way to take the story. He always wanted to show up at the walls of Corvis with an army of steam-flesh hybrid pig monsters to prove to his old academic colleagues that he was right to pursue the research that he did, it could be cute to see him try to get that point across by being a saviour instead of a destroyer.
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Post by zhoe on Dec 9, 2019 7:00:09 GMT
To dig in a little deeper, gigantism is a common occurrence in Farrow, and results in their Warbeasts. The general way in which Farrow "Tuskers" (the Large Warbeasts) are born is when two of the light 'beast-sized Boars breed and, on rare occasions, give birth to notably gigantic offspring of their own. The books also note that Arkadius enhances his experiments with growth serum, but Brine is a demonstration that the larger strains of Farrow can be achieved without scientific help. Theoretically, breeding Tuskers could lead to a Farrow of Gargantuan size. On a side note, a small element of the Iron Kingdoms setting that I've always quite liked is that gigantism seems to be a reasonably established element across almost all species. We have a number of 7-8 foot tall humans, a couple of elves, the horses pulling Gun Carriages and serving as mounts for the Drakhun probably have their origins in such occurrences, and so on. All of that said, I think I'd rather see Farrow get cavalry and support solos and unit attachments and generally more utility before we get a Gargantuan. We're in this weird position where our Warlocks are almost all battlegroup-focussed, so even though our infantry is in a pretty ok place independently it all suffers from a total dearth of support. And if we must get a huge base... a Pig Pen structure seems like a fun way to take things. And a part of me kind of hopes that Oblivion sees some kind of Cygnar-Farrow alliance, rather than closer ties to any of the Hordes factions. Just because giving Arkadius a redemption arc seems like a fun way to take the story. He always wanted to show up at the walls of Corvis with an army of steam-flesh hybrid pig monsters to prove to his old academic colleagues that he was right to pursue the research that he did, it could be cute to see him try to get that point across by being a saviour instead of a destroyer. i agaree with asahol
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Post by Gamingdevil on Dec 9, 2019 7:54:05 GMT
And a part of me kind of hopes that Oblivion sees some kind of Cygnar-Farrow alliance, rather than closer ties to any of the Hordes factions. Just because giving Arkadius a redemption arc seems like a fun way to take the story. He always wanted to show up at the walls of Corvis with an army of steam-flesh hybrid pig monsters to prove to his old academic colleagues that he was right to pursue the research that he did, it could be cute to see him try to get that point across by being a saviour instead of a destroyer. That would be cool, but does he actually have the authority to broker alliances? Or do you mean more like a "Strange Bedfellows" thing where it's only him and a handful of Cygnar casters?
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Post by Azahul on Dec 9, 2019 8:04:55 GMT
That would be cool, but does he actually have the authority to broker alliances? Or do you mean more like a "Strange Bedfellows" thing where it's only him and a handful of Cygnar casters? Oh very much the latter. Maybe even Kingmakers, where it really only represents a single short span of time. To be honest I wouldn't even need there to be much of a mechanical side to it, I just kinda want that story.
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Post by charlzheimer on Dec 14, 2019 13:43:21 GMT
imagine farrow beeing one of the key components of humanity's fate. now that would be funny.
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Post by gupp on Dec 14, 2019 20:00:52 GMT
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Post by Gamingdevil on Dec 16, 2019 7:27:46 GMT
imagine farrow beeing one of the key components of humanity's fate. now that would be funny. Bacon will save humanity! You heard it here first, folks.
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Post by marxlives on Dec 16, 2019 16:09:38 GMT
According to the RPG books, the bigger pig warbeasts are just a thing that happens sometimes when a Farrow gives birth. Brine wasn't modified by Arkadias at all, for example. I think giving birth to a gargantuan sized pig might be... difficult, but maybe? Magic is a thing. I know Arkadius is working with Bethany to learn how blight works. Could be cool to see that come into fruition.
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Post by marxlives on Dec 16, 2019 16:11:38 GMT
To dig in a little deeper, gigantism is a common occurrence in Farrow, and results in their Warbeasts. The general way in which Farrow "Tuskers" (the Large Warbeasts) are born is when two of the light 'beast-sized Boars breed and, on rare occasions, give birth to notably gigantic offspring of their own. The books also note that Arkadius enhances his experiments with growth serum, but Brine is a demonstration that the larger strains of Farrow can be achieved without scientific help. Theoretically, breeding Tuskers could lead to a Farrow of Gargantuan size. On a side note, a small element of the Iron Kingdoms setting that I've always quite liked is that gigantism seems to be a reasonably established element across almost all species. We have a number of 7-8 foot tall humans, a couple of elves, the horses pulling Gun Carriages and serving as mounts for the Drakhun probably have their origins in such occurrences, and so on. All of that said, I think I'd rather see Farrow get cavalry and support solos and unit attachments and generally more utility before we get a Gargantuan. We're in this weird position where our Warlocks are almost all battlegroup-focussed, so even though our infantry is in a pretty ok place independently it all suffers from a total dearth of support. And if we must get a huge base... a Pig Pen structure seems like a fun way to take things. And a part of me kind of hopes that Oblivion sees some kind of Cygnar-Farrow alliance, rather than closer ties to any of the Hordes factions. Just because giving Arkadius a redemption arc seems like a fun way to take the story. He always wanted to show up at the walls of Corvis with an army of steam-flesh hybrid pig monsters to prove to his old academic colleagues that he was right to pursue the research that he did, it could be cute to see him try to get that point across by being a saviour instead of a destroyer. You have shown me the light with Pig Pen structure.
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Post by gobber on Dec 17, 2019 0:39:58 GMT
Love the pig pen thought. At least what that calls to mind for me is some sort of pen filled with Razorboars (who escape if you destroy the pen) with a catapult that sends them flying into battle
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Post by gupp on Dec 17, 2019 1:08:01 GMT
Yeah, a pig pen could be ok, it could have a similar aesthetic to the meat thresher.
On the topic of structures, I sort of want skorne to get a watchtower/ field post
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Post by marxlives on Dec 17, 2019 2:41:14 GMT
Yeah, a pig pen could be ok, it could have a similar aesthetic to the meat thresher. On the topic of structures, I sort of want skorne to get a watchtower/ field post Good thing about structures is they can double as terrain features.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 17, 2019 10:14:14 GMT
Love the pig pen thought. At least what that calls to mind for me is some sort of pen filled with Razorboars (who escape if you destroy the pen) with a catapult that sends them flying into battle I love this idea so much!
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Post by elricaltovilla on Dec 17, 2019 12:09:47 GMT
I stayed up too late last night looking up all the stuff going through CID and now all I can say is that I hope whatever hordes gets it's damn good, cuz I have a feeling they're going to need it to stay competitive.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Dec 17, 2019 13:18:35 GMT
I stayed up too late last night looking up all the stuff going through CID and now all I can say is that I hope whatever hordes gets it's damn good, cuz I have a feeling they're going to need it to stay competitive. Which factions exactly are you counting on here? Skorne, Circle and Grymkin are all doing fine. It's true that Trollbloods and Legion (and Minions) are lagging a bit behind, but not by that much, and word is that the former will get a few buffs in the next Dynamic Update.
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