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Post by Korianneder on Oct 27, 2019 18:39:56 GMT
Personally I'd change mobility for escort and change the spell bombshell for something actually useful, since the spell is unique to harkevich we can just change the spell itself and Imo it'd be good if bombshell was a target allied model/unit spell that turns blast damage to full and doesn't count as blast damage. This would make harkevich good with winterguard artillery and bombardiers while also giving the chance for one jack to get a strong shot per round. Locke has Bombshell now too, as does...maybe somebody else. The steelhead arcanist has it as a solo.
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leander
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Post by leander on Oct 27, 2019 21:32:31 GMT
Good excuse to just make a new spell then, bombshell does nothing for harkevich as it is, never seen anyone use it and like it.
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Post by michael on Oct 28, 2019 1:08:51 GMT
I would buy it if it were like Airburst and could target anyone in CTRL, except he's only FOC 6 and it seems like if any decent enemy target is in his CTRL he's dead anyway.
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Post by leander on Oct 28, 2019 15:07:29 GMT
Another idea, since harkevich is supposed to be a protector of the khadoran people, I could see him having field marshal roadblock, providing cover to his infantry.
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Post by mcdermott on Oct 28, 2019 16:16:10 GMT
or swap broadsides for a unique spell that does the same thing but only for light artillery units in his control area. Then he operates under the strategy of holding them back with his warjacks while shelling them with the winter guard behind them
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Post by borderprince on Oct 28, 2019 17:23:03 GMT
or swap broadsides for a unique spell that does the same thing but only for light artillery units in his control area. Then he operates under the strategy of holding them back with his warjacks while shelling them with the winter guard behind them Are there any other casters who have a spell which only works on models available in one of a faction's theme lists (WGK here)? I know some casters have things like Veteran Leader rules and so on, but I can't think of anyone with a spell that is so limited.
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Post by leander on Oct 28, 2019 18:00:48 GMT
From what I can tell about his character, he screams "artillery support along with infantry protection through use of his battlegroup"
So to make that thematic concept work he needs something that makes his jacks better at protecting his infantry while he supports the artillery in his army.
By switching his field marshal to roadblock instead of reposition along with switching bombshell to a spell that enhances the quality/quantity of AoE attacks (from either jack or warrior models) is I think one of the more interesting ways to rework him.
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Post by sorokin on Oct 28, 2019 19:18:43 GMT
Personally I'd change mobility for escort and change the spell bombshell for something actually useful, since the spell is unique to harkevich we can just change the spell itself and Imo it'd be good if bombshell was a target allied model/unit spell that turns blast damage to full and doesn't count as blast damage. This would make harkevich good with winterguard artillery and bombardiers while also giving the chance for one jack to get a strong shot per round. Locke has Bombshell now too, as does...maybe somebody else. The Steelhead Arcassnist actually. Also, just spitballing here, but how about Field Marshal: Swift Hunter?
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Post by sorokin on Oct 28, 2019 19:23:40 GMT
Also the obvious solution to all his problems is Temporal Accelleration, lmao.
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Post by mcdermott on Oct 29, 2019 3:13:38 GMT
or swap broadsides for a unique spell that does the same thing but only for light artillery units in his control area. Then he operates under the strategy of holding them back with his warjacks while shelling them with the winter guard behind them Are there any other casters who have a spell which only works on models available in one of a faction's theme lists (WGK here)? I know some casters have things like Veteran Leader rules and so on, but I can't think of anyone with a spell that is so limited. There are a few casters that are practically one theme if not explicitly one theme. Sorscha3 for example. Gonna give up that fieldmarshal? I honestly don't see the practical difference between a spell that pigeonholes a caster into one theme and a field marshal/veteran leader/etc that does the same.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 29, 2019 5:50:15 GMT
NO! BAD SOROKIN! Leave Shoe's nonsense out of the Khador forum!
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Post by michael on Oct 29, 2019 15:05:33 GMT
Are there any other casters who have a spell which only works on models available in one of a faction's theme lists (WGK here)? I know some casters have things like Veteran Leader rules and so on, but I can't think of anyone with a spell that is so limited. There are a few casters that are practically one theme if not explicitly one theme. Sorscha3 for example. Gonna give up that fieldmarshal? I honestly don't see the practical difference between a spell that pigeonholes a caster into one theme and a field marshal/veteran leader/etc that does the same. At worst, Sorscha3 can trigger the Field Marshal with herself, so it’s not strictly limited to the theme. That is much different than a caster’s signature spell that only targets a single specific unit type which are currently only extant in one theme.
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Post by mcdermott on Oct 29, 2019 19:52:28 GMT
There are a few casters that are practically one theme if not explicitly one theme. Sorscha3 for example. Gonna give up that fieldmarshal? I honestly don't see the practical difference between a spell that pigeonholes a caster into one theme and a field marshal/veteran leader/etc that does the same. At worst, Sorscha3 can trigger the Field Marshal with herself, so it’s not strictly limited to the theme. That is much different than a caster’s signature spell that only targets a single specific unit type which are currently only extant in one theme. At worst hark speeds up and increases the resilience of khadoran jacks. Doesn't seem that much different. I mean have you got a lot of S3 in anything but AK floating around? Seems like S1 is better if you aren't loading up on MOW. Same situation with hark. If the choice is pigeonholing a caster into 1 theme or themeless but having them functional and fitting the style of fight that they're supposed to have in lore vs making them generalist but trying to square peg a strategy through a round hole (khadoran jack gunlines) I'd say that the first option makes for a better game.
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Post by sorokin on Oct 29, 2019 20:20:13 GMT
NO! BAD SOROKIN! Leave Shoe's nonsense out of the Khador forum! All ur bass r belong to us!!!!!!!
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Post by crimsyn on Oct 29, 2019 20:34:28 GMT
Random thought: would giving Harkevich his old Mk.II card back fix him, or at least be a good start? He was fairly underwhelming in MK II. He had a moderately decent list composed of four Demolishers that played hard to win on scenario. But, still... Agreed, but I remember getting the feeling looking at his Mk.III card that he may have gotten slightly worse in the edition change, but other changes such as power up and Khador jacks not being terrible more than balanced out things like losing spells.
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