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Post by marxlives on Sept 25, 2019 14:39:43 GMT
My favorite part of the Sloan change is that the same crowd who cried “OMG nerf the out-of-activation shot, there’s like a 1 in 70 chance of a turn 1 assassination under highly specific circumstances if you totally sacrifice your army to do it!” legitimately did not realize the in-activation shot was a straight-up buff. Worried that unboosted out-of-activation RAT 6 feat shot was going to hit your stuff? Well no need to worry now, they can boost! And they can boost damage too! Good nerf you advocated for there, guys.Yeah, her feat was also benefit by that and for now her feat is actually viable one rather than the old crap. How kind they are! Both of these buffs are something like the surprise present for me. Her feat for the longest time was "looks cool on the card, sucks in practice". I do wonder if it was being played wrong. We were all playing it as a neat out of activation piece trade, but it should have been an assassination feat! KD and then let the guns ride. Here is a stupid question too. If a model shots ooa, it don't get no aiming bonus right?
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Post by marxlives on Sept 25, 2019 14:41:46 GMT
uote author=" droopingpuppy " source="/post/138946/thread" timestamp="1569308959"][qute author=" zhoe " source="/post/138939/thread" timestamp="1569275542"]it is a lital known but treu science fact dat not errybody at wtc knows wat dey doin out der. but even dose guys kno caine2 is worst casster No, even the dogs knows Blaize is much worse than him. It does not means Caine2 is not that bad or even good for now, but even him seems good when you compare him with Blaize. At least Caine2 is a functional Warcaster model, unlike Blaize. Well, if you mean 'she is not eligible to be listed on the worst caster because she is not even a warcaster' then I will agree, though.[/quot br] u realize blaize runs teh 15" thret blesd wepon massters rite. dats even befor oter bufs. liek 22 of dem and asso 10 "legions of lost shit" who asso hit purty hard and go 16^^ dats sum scary stuf rite der[/quote] Never send a paladin to do a fighters job.
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Post by marxlives on Sept 25, 2019 14:44:41 GMT
u realize blaize runs teh 15" thret blesd wepon massters rite. dats even befor oter bufs. liek 22 of dem and asso 10 "legions of lost shit" who asso hit purty hard and go 16^^ dats sum scary stuf rite der I am fully aware of it, but that doesn't change the truth sir. Personal prowess of the warcaster is not important, unless you can use it other than your last turn or the warcaster actually have the plan for the assassination run personally. If you only want to compare the personal prowess, Caine1/2 are simply one of the best casters for he can shoot down the enemy and retreat safely all the times, but are they so popular? Zoktavir1/3(well, is Butcher1/3 correct?) are the another example that the personal prowess of the warcaster is worthwhile - because his own melee capability is too devastating, it is worth enough to throw him and dispatch the most hard target and the rest of them are concentrated on support him. He is also tough enough to take some less hits too, although he is not the best tough guys among the warcaster/warlock groups. Stryker2 can't use his nova melee attack all the times, but has weird vector on the assassination run. Gibbs may allow him to Overload once more, though. And, I don't think that hit harder seems much an issue on here. Cygnar already have some casters that buffs melee damage rolls. Perhaps longer charge distance does? But do you desperately need it to forfeit the another advantages to choose the other warcasters? I don't think so. Also, sorry if I didn't understand you correctly, for I am not a native english speaker and I am bad at grammar too, so it is not so easy to read broken english(although it is clear that it is intended). Use all the in faction and merc tools available and BE the missile. That said, I wonder if Blaize is just made to be more of a merc caster than a Cygnar one. Mother Teresa is not supposed to take sides.
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zhoe
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Post by zhoe on Sept 25, 2019 17:13:48 GMT
she runs teh saem list in ether faccion
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Post by autocorrecthaslimits on Sept 25, 2019 17:38:11 GMT
I am fully aware of it, but that doesn't change the truth sir. Personal prowess of the warcaster is not important, unless you can use it other than your last turn or the warcaster actually have the plan for the assassination run personally. If you only want to compare the personal prowess, Caine1/2 are simply one of the best casters for he can shoot down the enemy and retreat safely all the times, but are they so popular? Zoktavir1/3(well, is Butcher1/3 correct?) are the another example that the personal prowess of the warcaster is worthwhile - because his own melee capability is too devastating, it is worth enough to throw him and dispatch the most hard target and the rest of them are concentrated on support him. He is also tough enough to take some less hits too, although he is not the best tough guys among the warcaster/warlock groups. Stryker2 can't use his nova melee attack all the times, but has weird vector on the assassination run. Gibbs may allow him to Overload once more, though. And, I don't think that hit harder seems much an issue on here. Cygnar already have some casters that buffs melee damage rolls. Perhaps longer charge distance does? But do you desperately need it to forfeit the another advantages to choose the other warcasters? I don't think so. Also, sorry if I didn't understand you correctly, for I am not a native english speaker and I am bad at grammar too, so it is not so easy to read broken english(although it is clear that it is intended). Use all the in faction and merc tools available and BE the missile. That said, I wonder if Blaize is just made to be more of a merc caster than a Cygnar one. Mother Teresa is not supposed to take sides. Its not that she's better in mercs necessarily, its just merc players are used to...lower standards of caster output. Back to the thread topic, you know who also is bad? Caine3 in mercs. Hes so subpar, in a somewhat subpar faction, it's depressing. Whats worse is, unlike other turd casters like durgen, you want him to be good. His package could be so fun to run, but theres really nothing in mercs to capitalize on it. I've seen thread/facebook post/discord/podcast trying to shoehorn him into themes, lists, jank, etc.,for years. And yet he is still untouched whenever a merc player wants to win. So not only do you loose games, you loose time and your hope. Everytime you field him in some "creative" list, 99% of the time caine3 gets handled by any decent list with ease. And unlike caine2 whos had some glory days, merc caine3 is still holding out for a merc charger, and a better spell than locomotion... ...But I still am trying, currently running him in SoF,still loosing hard, dogganmit caine I cant quit you
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Post by droopingpuppy on Sept 25, 2019 18:30:19 GMT
Yeah, her feat was also benefit by that and for now her feat is actually viable one rather than the old crap. How kind they are! Both of these buffs are something like the surprise present for me. Her feat for the longest time was "looks cool on the card, sucks in practice". I do wonder if it was being played wrong. We were all playing it as a neat out of activation piece trade, but it should have been an assassination feat! KD and then let the guns ride. Here is a stupid question too. If a model shots ooa, it don't get no aiming bonus right? Well, it can be an assassination tool in MKII, because her feat also boosts ranged attack roll of FF models in her control area. Although its damage roll wasn't boosted, if the enemy caster is stupid enough to expose him/herself then it is the last turn of him/her. The boosting part was removed and replaced by Guided Fire spell for now. The problem is how to get the clear LOS to the enemy caster, but we have a few solutions(such as Taryn). And even without the assassination attempts, boosted ranged attack rolls part is not that bad. In MKII, if you want to enjoy the extra ranged attack Haley1 was simply the better choice, for she allows an another attack so you can boost on your own activation, and she also allows all FF models to make an another attack, rather than her own battlegroup. If you have used some anti-armor ranged attack on your warjack/beast, you will know that boosted damage roll have significant impact on the damage output. Because most anti-armor ranged weapons have POWs around or 14 to 15, it causes about 1 to 2 damage against ARM 20 when unboosted but it gets much better when you boost it. It is connected with Triumph - Rapid Fire was no more than a joke until its Bond with Brisbane was changed. Well, it is true that an another unboosted damage roll along with your initial attack DO raise the total damage output, but if it is boosted its damage roll would be much better. However, for now Sloan can simply allows full double tap. Yay! And, sure no aiming bonus because aim only benefits the ranged attack during the model's activation it have aimed.
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privvy
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Post by privvy on Sept 25, 2019 20:01:13 GMT
I think the worst caster is the one unplayed. Plenty of dark horse options.
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Post by hypnotoad on Sept 26, 2019 0:16:06 GMT
I think the worst caster is the one unplayed. Plenty of dark horse options. I think the worst caster is the one purchased but poorly designed (and sits on the shelf).
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Post by kjata on Sept 26, 2019 2:31:52 GMT
I think the worst caster is the one unplayed. Plenty of dark horse options. I think the worst caster is the one purchased but poorly designed (and sits on the shelf). I own 2 feora1 and 2 kromac1. Fear me!
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Post by hypnotoad on Sept 26, 2019 12:57:50 GMT
I think the worst caster is the one purchased but poorly designed (and sits on the shelf). I own 2 feora1 and 2 kromac1. Fear me! HA! I'm pretty sure I own two pSturgis models and two pNemo models somewhere.
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marke
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Post by marke on Sept 26, 2019 16:33:48 GMT
Mortenebra2 could've been better. I spent quite some time painting mine, played a bit too, but she sucked. Now sold though..
IMO best looking sculpt in the game, but there are many close seconds too!
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Post by marxlives on Oct 3, 2019 14:47:55 GMT
Her feat for the longest time was "looks cool on the card, sucks in practice". I do wonder if it was being played wrong. We were all playing it as a neat out of activation piece trade, but it should have been an assassination feat! KD and then let the guns ride. Here is a stupid question too. If a model shots ooa, it don't get no aiming bonus right? Well, it can be an assassination tool in MKII, because her feat also boosts ranged attack roll of FF models in her control area. Although its damage roll wasn't boosted, if the enemy caster is stupid enough to expose him/herself then it is the last turn of him/her. The boosting part was removed and replaced by Guided Fire spell for now. The problem is how to get the clear LOS to the enemy caster, but we have a few solutions(such as Taryn). And even without the assassination attempts, boosted ranged attack rolls part is not that bad. In MKII, if you want to enjoy the extra ranged attack Haley1 was simply the better choice, for she allows an another attack so you can boost on your own activation, and she also allows all FF models to make an another attack, rather than her own battlegroup. If you have used some anti-armor ranged attack on your warjack/beast, you will know that boosted damage roll have significant impact on the damage output. Because most anti-armor ranged weapons have POWs around or 14 to 15, it causes about 1 to 2 damage against ARM 20 when unboosted but it gets much better when you boost it. It is connected with Triumph - Rapid Fire was no more than a joke until its Bond with Brisbane was changed. Well, it is true that an another unboosted damage roll along with your initial attack DO raise the total damage output, but if it is boosted its damage roll would be much better. However, for now Sloan can simply allows full double tap. Yay! And, sure no aiming bonus because aim only benefits the ranged attack during the model's activation it have aimed. Do you think Sloan deploying 75 points worth of Chargers or Hunters might be playing out her hand too early in the game? (mmmm.... they need Ambush.)
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Post by marxlives on Oct 3, 2019 15:11:31 GMT
Use all the in faction and merc tools available and BE the missile. That said, I wonder if Blaize is just made to be more of a merc caster than a Cygnar one. Mother Teresa is not supposed to take sides. Its not that she's better in mercs necessarily, its just merc players are used to...lower standards of caster output. Back to the thread topic, you know who also is bad? Caine3 in mercs. Hes so subpar, in a somewhat subpar faction, it's depressing. Whats worse is, unlike other turd casters like durgen, you want him to be good. His package could be so fun to run, but theres really nothing in mercs to capitalize on it. I've seen thread/facebook post/discord/podcast trying to shoehorn him into themes, lists, jank, etc.,for years. And yet he is still untouched whenever a merc player wants to win. So not only do you loose games, you loose time and your hope. Everytime you field him in some "creative" list, 99% of the time caine3 gets handled by any decent list with ease. And unlike caine2 whos had some glory days, merc caine3 is still holding out for a merc charger, and a better spell than locomotion... ...But I still am trying, currently running him in SoF,still loosing hard, dogganmit caine I cant quit you I don't blame you. All the Caine models are chalk full of character.
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Post by charlzheimer on Oct 11, 2019 9:37:00 GMT
i am reminded of a "bottom of the barrel" tournament we did in mk2.
we did a poll on wich were the Worst casters of every faction. then did a 50 pt tournament limited to only those casters.
won every game with thyra. (first and only tournament i won) God i miss mk2 madelyn corbaeu
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Post by hypnotoad on Oct 11, 2019 14:00:36 GMT
i am reminded of a "bottom of the barrel" tournament we did in mk2. we did a poll on wich were the Worst casters of every faction. then did a 50 pt tournament limited to only those casters. won every game with thyra. (first and only tournament i won) God i miss mk2 madelyn corbaeu Minus the 'Jack updates and changes to focus allocation, I pretty much miss MK2.
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