smoth
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Post by smoth on Sept 12, 2019 22:10:22 GMT
This is silly, do we have any path to contest rules?
I get that 30 has to be 30 but round vs sloped sides or flat sides seems arbitrary.
this is not a major issue. Just a rule that is hard to defend
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zhoe
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Post by zhoe on Sept 12, 2019 22:12:47 GMT
it is probabaly for ur own good
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Post by mydnight on Sept 12, 2019 22:47:37 GMT
it is probabaly for ur own good It is probably best to ignore a sentence by shoe when all the spelling is correct
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Post by michael on Sept 12, 2019 23:14:44 GMT
This is silly, do we have any path to contest rules? I get that 30 has to be 30 but round vs sloped sides or flat sides seems arbitrary. this is not a major issue. Just a rule that is hard to defend ... Because every single Warmachine and Hordes model, ever, for fifteen years, has shipped with round lipped bases, and every Steamroller packet that has included the section about conversions has literally said "you must use round lipped bases" seems...arbitrary?
Dude. For real?
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marke
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Post by marke on Sept 13, 2019 0:59:36 GMT
Weewooweewoo! Alright folks, calm down and scatter, the opinion police is here!
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Lbofun
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Post by Lbofun on Sept 13, 2019 1:27:21 GMT
I mean it seems kind of like an arbitrary thing to be upset about. It has been this way for 15 years. It is like the GW base are all the sloped ones.....
and side note was this not also posted on the WM/H Facebook page too today?
Did something happen? did you bring models not on a rounded base to an event?
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juckto
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Post by juckto on Sept 13, 2019 5:38:16 GMT
Are you upset that the rule exists? Or are you upset that you didn't know the rule exists, and you got caught out?
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Post by greytemplar on Sept 13, 2019 6:12:22 GMT
This might be the reason. Official PP bases are actually not exactly the size they are stated to be. They're around 1/2cm larger than their stated size. Bases bought from other sources might differ as well. There is also the possibility that, if you allow bases that have different shapes, you could give an opportunity for cheating with someone who uses bases that are a MM or two off if you allow for bases with other shaped edges(which would require a third party source).
I think its both a half-hearted attempt at anti-cheating combined with a sneaky attempt to prevent you from buying 3rd party bases. Not that PP actually loses any money from 3rd party bases, given that they don't sell scenic bases to my knowledge.
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Post by anderfreak on Sept 13, 2019 7:02:24 GMT
Literally every Smoth post be like: youtu.be/73GOfY0Ab9gSo... what happened? You got a story to share or is this just random wailing into the void?
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juckto
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Post by juckto on Sept 13, 2019 7:41:15 GMT
you could give an opportunity for cheating with someone who uses bases that are a MM or two off Bases made by PP are already that inaccurate. I've taken two "30mm" bases from PP models, held them against each other, and found a noticable difference. From memory it was an old 30mm model vs a new 30mm model.
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Cyel
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Post by Cyel on Sept 13, 2019 10:32:45 GMT
I found the official bases work much better when you're trying to see where front/backs are when a bunch of models are placed close to each other. GW-style bases' sides are not visible in such cases.
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on Sept 13, 2019 10:42:20 GMT
Interesting I did not know tue Bases were not the exact size. Need to measure at home!
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Post by michael on Sept 13, 2019 12:00:43 GMT
Privateer switched base vendors around 2010. The old, un-textured, “generic” bases were a true 30mm, and all of the post-2010 “textured” bases with the pattern on top and PP logo on bottom are like 30.2mm or something. And actually to be completely accurate, they switched twice, because there was a period of maybe 6-8 months in 2009-ish when a third base brand was in there, similar but not quite identical to the original “generic” bases. No, I’m not going to go digging through all my models for photographic evidence.
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Post by michael on Sept 13, 2019 12:09:09 GMT
Weewooweewoo! Alright folks, calm down and scatter, the opinion police is here! Mostly I am annoyed by the passive, manipulative tone in the undercurrent of practically every single one of this guy’s posts. The framing of each translates into “Hey I am a reasonable and cool guy and we’re totally on the same side, but can you BELIEVE how this company wronged me in some way?” It is manipulative framing in the worst way. Taken objectively and in aggregate, it can’t help but come across as ceaseless, intentional attempts to provoke ill will toward Privateer. (There’s a reason I blocked this guy months ago, and yet I am STILL dumb enough to click “Display Post” on occasion! My failing, I know. I own it.)
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Munindk
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Post by Munindk on Sept 13, 2019 12:49:47 GMT
My best guess: Warmachine is a game with tight rules, well suited to tournament play, and often played on a clock. Standardised basing, along with a strict conversion policy (used to much stricter), help make the game pieces easier to recognize.
Honest question: Since you've been a member since march 2017, why has this issue come up now? I mean its a very basic (pun intended) thing.
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