Horse Force rides again (aka WotOF)

The list certainly can’t attrition very well. Lacks the models or armour to do so. Most of my games were done by turn four so far. So I’d look to something that can grind out the distance. I’ve not settled on anyone yet but Witch2 or Irusk2 are top contenders.

Yeah good shooting can make this list very sad. That said there are some WotOF builds which I think can be very good into shooting. There’s a Reznik list I’d love to run when I’m rich enough to afford all the extra models!

Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages - WJ: +29
- War Dog - PC: 3
- Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16)
- Kodiak - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)

Fenris - PC: 8
- Fenris (Continued)
Hand of Silence - PC: 7
Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8
- Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued)
Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8
- Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued)
Menite Archon - PC: 8
Menite Archon - PC: 8
Wrack - PC: 1
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon - PC: 0
Hermit of Henge Hold - PC: 0
Yuri the Axe - PC: 0

Initiates of the Wall - Leader & Grunts: 7
Initiates of the Wall - Leader & Grunts: 7
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4
Kossite Woodsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 6

That’s 7 shieldguards that can be armour 21. And when they die it’ll proc the Righteous/Swift Vengeance on the Paladins and Archons. 4 Threshers plus the feat should dissuade hordes, plus a whole load of
anti magic abilities.

I just double checked this on the crad database but Champions dont have vengeance and also dont get it from Vilmon, because Vilmon's elite cadre only works for "Paladin of the Order of the Wall" models, unlike the Champions's leadership which works for "Paladin" models. So you'd need to include actual Paladins into your list for it to work like you described.
That or I am overseeing something critical, which would not be the first time.

Edit: Okay scratch that, I bothered to do some research. Vilmon's rule is simply poorly worded garbage and they released an infernal ruling that Champions also count as Paladins of the Order of the Wall, and apparently they are okay with the confusion rather than updating the card at any point in time.

Hrrrmpff

I have no idea what you're talking about in that first sentence... Local nickname are not necessarely common knowledge here...
I'm pretty sure Durst would have been a pretty bad caster here, but that might come from my general dislike about Durst in general. 
I think having the hermit and initiates in the list go a long way to keep casters alive, especially the casters that have part of their kit requiring them to be close to the frontline, like Feora3 and Reznik2.

Maddy = pretty common nick name for Madelyn Cobeau. 

A pretty standard Rez2 list is to put her as an attachment to him and then parlay every turn while hugging his but.  Given the size of her bubble and the size of a Huge base there is no warrior model in the game that can touch Rez.  You then put a devout B2B with him....so no spells (and a shield guard).  He himself keeps a focus on so no non-magical weapon shots.  With those 2 support models and focus the only things in the game that can hit him are magical range weapons (after any shield guards required) and non warrior melee attacks (so basically jacks and beasts and BEs).  

At Def 13, ARM 18 he is vulnerable to warriors.  Maddy stops that.

PS/Edit.  That is not precisely true as I think about it.  The retribution assassin solo can be RNG 4 on their weapon.  But I think that is one of the only ones that is RNG > 2.

After a bit of tinkering here's my first attempt:

Vladimir Tzepesci, Great Prince of Umbrey +27
-Crusader -10
-Devout -9
-Grolar -18
Champion of the Order of the Wall -8
High Paladin Dartan Vilmon -0(6)
Man o War Drakhun -9
Vassal of Menoth -0(3)
Vassal of Menoth -0(3)
Yuri the Axe -0(5)
Choir of Menoth (Min) -4
Flame Bringers (Max) -17
Initiates of the Wall -7
Iron Fang Ulhans (Max) -20

Will hopefully get a test game in before too long.

Cheers,
Dave

Sorry for the double post for those of you who also troll the Menoth forum. That said...

Woo hoo!

I just completed an army swap trade for Menoth. As you know I'm a loyal to the Empress, but have had a Grymkin army collecting dust for two years. I've been wanting to play Warriors of the Old Faith, and so have been shopping my Grymkin army around in hopes of trading for a Menoth army with most of the models I would need to run WotoF.

Well, I hit the jackpot and am very happy with the trade I made. My new army is posted below.

So now I'm thinking about list building.

In addition to Vlad 3, I own
- Vlad 3
- 1 Gun Carriage, 1 Chariot
- 2 Drakhun
- Fenris
- max unit of Uhlans, Markov
- Yuri, 2X Manhunters, 12 Kossites (2 min, or 1 max)
- Menite Archon
- the Hermit

In terms of running Warriors of the Old Faith, I now need to figure out what are my "go to" models from what I now own...

Also...What key models do you think I should still buy? In particular...
(a) Feora 3 ... I'm inclined to purchase her just so that I have all 3 WotoF casters.
(b) Exemplar Vengers ... I'm disinclined to purchase these since I already own painted Uhlans and this unit seems to be a bit of a sideways swap.
(c) Initiates of the Wall ... these guys look good. Maybe a bit slow for Cavalry but maybe not with Vlad 3. Would you recommend buying one unit?

I'm a little stuck on list building now that I have all these new options. I want to try Vlad 3 first. I'm not really sure about the jack load out. On the one hand, I really want a Judicator with Vlad 3. The Menite archon looks really good with him. I think Vlad also wants a Devout.

For units...damn, the Uhlans, Flame Bringers, and Outriders all look good but I think only one max unit fits with the Judicator and a Devout. That said, dropping the Devout allows you to fit in all 3 units... But damn! Where is there now room for a battle engine!

So many options...

*Casters*

Amon

Cyrenia

Durst

Feora 1, 2

Harbinger of Menoth

High reclaimer

Kreoss 1, 2

Kreoss 3

Malakus

Reznick 1, 2

Sev 1,2

Testement of Menoth

Vindicus (NIB)

Vindicus





*Warjacks*

Avatar of Menoth 1X (assembled)

Avatar of Menoth x1 (NIB)

Blessing of vengeance x1

Blood of martyrs

Castigator x1

Castigator, reckoner, sanctifier x4

Crusader x1

Crusader, templar, vanquisher kit x2

Dervish, devout, purifier kit x2

Devout metal x1

Fire of salivation x1

Guardian x1

Guardian, indictor kit x1

Indictor x1

Judicator x1

Judicator/Revelator x1 (magnetized)

Redeemer x2

Revenger x2

Vigilant x3



*Units*

Exemplar Bastions x2

Choir x1

Exemplar Cinerators x1 (NIB)

Exemplar Cinerators x2 with ca (Assembled)

Daughters of the flame x1

Exemplar Errants x1

Exemplar Knights x3

Flame Bringers x1

Rhoven and Honor Guard



*Solos*

Bastion Senschal x2

Paladin of Order of the Wall Solo (Assembled) x2

Champion of the order of the Wall Cavalry x1

Elias Gade x1

Exemplar Errant seneschal x1

Exemplar officer x1

High Exemplar Gravus x1

Hand of Silence x1

Heirophant x1

Hierophant x1 (NIB)

Mechanik x1

Order of the fist x2

Reclaimer x1

Sevi 0

Vassel of Menoth x2

Vilmon x1

Warden x1

Wracks x3