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Post by Aegis on Jul 29, 2019 22:11:26 GMT
I think continuing to give out Shield Guards like candies is stupid, but that's the new PP way, so...
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 30, 2019 4:38:49 GMT
By the POV of user, 2pt but one-shot Shield Guard is nothing but weird. But anyway cheap Shield Guard is very annoying to face and also hard to balancing. . I don't get why PP want to do with it. Isn't CID already tested that before and changed to the other version?
Also, I wonder why his name should be Morrowan Priest. If his name is Morrowan Matyr then I may accept his role at least.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 30, 2019 14:54:03 GMT
The church of morrow should be empty by now, if their priests are valued less than a trencher, and used as meatshields for them...
There are already people talking about taking 3 of them with Mechaniks just to have 3 shield guards with 6 points...
And mean while, who the hell is going to take a Sentinel or an Ogrun Bokur (things really intended to be shields) now?
PP shouldn't be hirng new miniature casters... Should be hiring developers who knows what they are doing...
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Post by Rork on Jul 30, 2019 15:26:38 GMT
Although I agree that it's weird that you can add them to Mechaniks, I think that shield guard feels entirely consistent with Morrowan philosophy. That whole selfless schtick makes sense for Shield Guard, although maybe it's a bit spammy in terms of how it has been implemented.
(And I suppose the Precursors will quite literally avenge them?!)
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Post by mydnight on Jul 31, 2019 3:17:07 GMT
They should have given it self sacrifice so it only protects the unit. Shield guard is awkward, particularly with mechanics. They should have then just made them 2 point solos. Theme and fluff aside at least Cyg players cant complain that PP hasn't given them anything nice. Now my SotT can have 3 shield guards attached to the B13! Here are nice benefits they can get from being in some units: Morrow's name; practised maneuvers +2 damage from the Stormblade leader; iron zeal +2 damage/accuracy from the trencher commando officer; repo 3; advanced deployment Stormguard: increasing nexus blast pwr They can help the express team gunner aim
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 31, 2019 6:06:52 GMT
They should have given it self sacrifice so it only protects the unit. Shield guard is awkward, particularly with mechanics. They should have then just made them 2 point solos. Theme and fluff aside at least Cyg players cant complain that PP hasn't given them anything nice. Now my SotT can have 3 shield guards attached to the B13! Here are nice benefits they can get from being in some units: Morrow's name; practised maneuvers +2 damage from the Stormblade leader; iron zeal +2 damage/accuracy from the trencher commando officer; repo 3; advanced deployment Stormguard: increasing nexus blast pwr They can help the express team gunner aim It seems Stormblade Infantry can be an another candidate as well. Although their low RNG hurts to fully abuse the leader's 5" bubble....
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 31, 2019 7:07:54 GMT
I guess you can add them to Merc units if you attach Murdoch?
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 31, 2019 9:04:34 GMT
Ranking Officer is a special case so I think that it is unlikely to happen, but no one here are the PP staff that have a sure answer.
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Post by snoozer on Jul 31, 2019 11:56:40 GMT
Are Battle Priests "real" Priests fluff wise? To me they seem more like battle monks and then there would probably be plenty of them to go catch some bullets.
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 31, 2019 12:19:06 GMT
Are Battle Priests "real" Priests fluff wise? To me they seem more like battle monks and then there would probably be plenty of them to go catch some bullets. We don't know, but the title 'priest' is not easily given. Only a few individuals which are have enough willpower to draw the power of the gods are called priest. Every single priest in Immoren are the spellcaster that able to manifest the power of the god, without exception, for 'able to cast divine magic' is the basic definition of the word priest for now(at least after the Gift of Magic bestowed by Thamar, for human race). Without the ability to do so, the individual is no more than a believer, a scribe or a preacher.
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Post by elmagnifico on Jul 31, 2019 14:59:19 GMT
Are Battle Priests "real" Priests fluff wise? To me they seem more like battle monks and then there would probably be plenty of them to go catch some bullets. We don't know, but the title 'priest' is not easily given. Only a few individuals which are have enough willpower to draw the power of the gods are called priest. Every single priest in Immoren are the spellcaster that able to manifest the power of the god, without exception, for 'able to cast divine magic' is the basic definition of the word priest for now(at least after the Gift of Magic bestowed by Thamar, for human race). Without the ability to do so, the individual is no more than a believer, a scribe or a preacher. If memory serves, even before Thamar did the thing, Divine Magic and the Wilding that Circle Druids use were the only forms of magic humanity had access to, so that definition of Priest may be even older than the Twins.
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Post by Juris on Jul 31, 2019 15:51:27 GMT
Ha, I didn't expect they are come with Week 2 ver1. 2pt Shield Guard is ridiculous, although it is one shot. At first, through the CID I don't get the concept of him. Did PP ever had it? If they are attached to a unit of LoLS, you can return them with Blood Bound. Battle Priests are absolutely amazing at 2 points, and even more amazing considering that you can have 3 of them for a single requisition in Flames...
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 31, 2019 16:41:10 GMT
We don't know, but the title 'priest' is not easily given. Only a few individuals which are have enough willpower to draw the power of the gods are called priest. Every single priest in Immoren are the spellcaster that able to manifest the power of the god, without exception, for 'able to cast divine magic' is the basic definition of the word priest for now(at least after the Gift of Magic bestowed by Thamar, for human race). Without the ability to do so, the individual is no more than a believer, a scribe or a preacher. If memory serves, even before Thamar did the thing, Divine Magic and the Wilding that Circle Druids use were the only forms of magic humanity had access to, so that definition of Priest may be even older than the Twins. It was suggested that the Gift of Magic bestowed by Thamar totally changes how humans cast spells, not only arcane, but also divine. We can't know detailed answer, but Doug suggests that priests before the Gift may invoke divine miracle but it is unlikely that such miracles are the same thing as the divine magic of the human divine spellcasters of the current era. It seems that the Gift of Magic totally changes the entire system of human race, and it is not only allow human to be born with the arcane spellcasters with innate Gift, but also affect the human priests to refine their divine power bestowed by their god and make them cast more stable divine magic rather than simply invoke raw power to make the lesser miracles. Well, priests in some other races are already have divine magic and it is not related with the Gift of Magic to the humanity. But at least for the human race, the Gift of Magic affects too greatly. And, druid's spell is not like as divine magic; although their source of power is Wurm, but they never worship it - they just sap the power from it.
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Post by sorokin on Jul 31, 2019 23:01:44 GMT
So one very interewsting thing is that you can actually attach Priests to Mutineers so long as you play in Cygnar. The Mutineers version of Blood Bounds states that models are brought back with 5 damage boxes. So there we go, as if they weren't stupid good already, swans can also make them multi wound.
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Post by josephkerr on Aug 1, 2019 0:39:02 GMT
So one very interewsting thing is that you can actually attach Priests to Mutineers so long as you play in Cygnar. The Mutineers version of Blood Bounds states that models are brought back with 5 damage boxes. So there we go, as if they weren't stupid good already, swans can also make them multi wound. This is the exact moment the people with purple names release a rules update lol. Good catch!
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