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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 31, 2019 3:09:11 GMT
Hmm, whole lot of True Sight going on; Stealth ain't what it used to be I guess. "Undead Morrowans with souls" is not a phrase I ever thought I would read. Honestly, I always expected Morrowan cavalry. Ah well. Do we have any concept art for any of these new units?
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Post by gobber on Jul 31, 2019 5:06:00 GMT
War Uni only has rules from the beginning of CID though, as we usually don't edit the pages until the final model is released, since you can never truly foresee all the changes from internal testing (as proven with the M. Archon. Blaize and Battle Priests among others). E.g. you listed Throne with Divine Inspiration, but at the end of CID he had Stir the Blood instead and we have no idea what he will end up with in the end. Edit: Just to clarify the rules... Battle Priests can't be brought back by Blood-Bound, right... because recurring Shield Guards would be silly, right...? Just as they would benefit from shield wall, uhm they would also benefit fromt blood bound!? They fit the 'model in this unit' clause. Also has anyone dojo'd up some lists given the lack of info? This is where im at right now given What we have. The menite archons are stand ins for throne and a thamarite archon. One of the precursor knights will be a legion of lost souls. And i have 7 points left over. Yes you can bring back battle priests. Both other bloodbound units can do this too: Devil's Shadow mutineers can bring back attached cephalyx dominators and hollowmen can bring back holden. privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?225185-Cephalyx-Dominator-and-The-Devil-s-Shadow-Mutineers&highlight=blood+bound+cephalyxSince they're attached to the Legion in this scenario, Alexia3 is also likely to be around which means once a turn you also have the option of turning pne that dies into thrall warrior that can be used to shield guard again that same round. Her passive necromancy RFPs them though so any that get turned into thralls can't be resurrected.
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Post by sorokin on Jul 31, 2019 8:44:15 GMT
Just as they would benefit from shield wall, uhm they would also benefit fromt blood bound!? They fit the 'model in this unit' clause. Also has anyone dojo'd up some lists given the lack of info? This is where im at right now given What we have. The menite archons are stand ins for throne and a thamarite archon. One of the precursor knights will be a legion of lost souls. And i have 7 points left over. Yes you can bring back battle priests. Both other bloodbound units can do this too: Devil's Shadow mutineers can bring back attached cephalyx dominators and hollowmen can bring back holden. privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?225185-Cephalyx-Dominator-and-The-Devil-s-Shadow-Mutineers&highlight=blood+bound+cephalyxSince they're attached to the Legion in this scenario, Alexia3 is also likely to be around which means once a turn you also have the option of turning pne that dies into thrall warrior that can be used to shield guard again that same round. Her passive necromancy RFPs them though so any that get turned into thralls can't be resurrected. OOOOOf that sounds so mean, I love it!
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Post by sorokin on Jul 31, 2019 8:54:27 GMT
War Uni only has rules from the beginning of CID though, as we usually don't edit the pages until the final model is released, since you can never truly foresee all the changes from internal testing (as proven with the M. Archon. Blaize and Battle Priests among others). E.g. you listed Throne with Divine Inspiration, but at the end of CID he had Stir the Blood instead and we have no idea what he will end up with in the end. Edit: Just to clarify the rules... Battle Priests can't be brought back by Blood-Bound, right... because recurring Shield Guards would be silly, right...? "List" Here is my current theory machine: Lady Z' New Home conflictchamber.com/?c3201b_-1J7bf6oQoToBoRoKoKo_p2oEp2oFKhador [Theme] Flame in the Darkness !!! This army contains pre-release entries. !!! This army contains CID entries. [Zerkova 1] Koldun Kommander Aleksandra Zerkova [+28] - Hurricane [35] Alexia, The Undying [0(5)] Grand Master Gabriel Throne [7] Ragman [4] Hermit of Henge Hold [5] Morrowan Archon [8] Thamarite Archon [8] Legion of Lost Souls (max) [18] - Morrowan Battle Priest (3) [0(6)] Precursor Knights (max) [14] - Morrowan Battle Priest (3) [0(6)] - Precursor Knight Officer & Standard [4] Might drop the Hurricane down to Gallant and Lancer depending on how the advocates turn out, but as is i rather like it. I dont think in need to give a run down on what is in there or why, we already pretty much discussed than in this threat. But i still want to stress that the list starts with 7 shieldguards, can generate more due Alexia, and can recurr 3 of them with blood bound. I cannot handle the spice.
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Post by sorokin on Jul 31, 2019 22:20:28 GMT
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Post by Havock on Jul 31, 2019 22:37:39 GMT
When the new releases hit, this is basically Zerkova1 with Legion of Steel but good.
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Post by auraco on Jul 31, 2019 23:41:55 GMT
When the new releases hit, this is basically Zerkova1 with Legion of Steel but good. Yeah basically, and Zerkova1 was suppose to be one of the caster that could kinda pull off Legion of steel. This theme is going to be so much better than legion of steel though, real requisition option, great theme benefits, good melee presence, good range presence, magic everywhere, blessed everywhere.
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Post by cplmustard on Jul 31, 2019 23:48:56 GMT
I had a funny idea for getting flames to work with zerkova2 on my way to work:
Khador [Theme] Flame in the Darkness
!!! This army contains a pre-release entry. !!! This army contains CID entries.
[Zerkova 2] Obavnik Kommander Zerkova [+24] - Hurricane [35] Alexia, Mistress of the Witchfire [7] Grand Master Gabriel Throne [7] Ragman [0(4)] Hermit of Henge Hold [0(5)] Lieutenant Allison Jakes [4] - Gallant [17] Thamarite Advocate [0(3)] Thamarite Advocate [0(3)] Thamarite Advocate [3] Order of Illumination Resolutes (max) [13] Order of Illumination Resolutes (max) [13]
Lots of fun tech on feat turn, Hermit and Ragman and run and do their thing for a -4 arm swing, alexia can make 6 thrall warriors (assuming you can grab 3 souls before/during her actual activation), jakes can energizer twice and gives a 14" threat on gallant who is def 15 and spell immune and triggers accumulator off everything, depending on where thamarite advocates end up they could some fun stuff. Resolutes can get buffed by throne and hit at effective pow 17 plus S&P in melee or just have pow 17 guns, hurricane is an arc node with some good guns that love arm debuffs and probably has banishing ward on it all game leading to a mostly spell-immune gunline with a surprising amount of tools, probably not as strong as zerk1 but seems interesting.
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Post by Havock on Aug 1, 2019 2:37:50 GMT
When the new releases hit, this is basically Zerkova1 with Legion of Steel but good. Yeah basically, and Zerkova1 was suppose to be one of the caster that could kinda pull off Legion of steel. This theme is going to be so much better than legion of steel though, real requisition option, great theme benefits, good melee presence, good range presence, magic everywhere, blessed everywhere. Could is the right word; LoS was fairly decent for a while, especially with her, but the game just moved on, and the theme hasn't received shit like the Dawnmower, or Ancestral Kaiju Statue, none of that. No guns just pikes. It has a certain plucky charm but... It sure feels like an uphill fight.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 1, 2019 3:26:42 GMT
Thanks mate. Looks like quite a bit of MOW dna in those Resolutes. I think everything looks pretty good, except maybe those crossbows; those things and going to cut the bearer's hands off, guaranteed. Plus the top limb interferes with you aim and sightline. Well, PP doesn't always have the most intelligent weapon designs; take for example the Decimator's cannon, with the barrel that doesn't actually line up with any of the chambers...
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 1, 2019 10:40:25 GMT
Glyn: Vigilant solo, with one more def and dodge, has true sight and leadership vigilant (true sight), her gun allow a place of the damaged model 1'' Hang on a second: is Glynn available in Khador? Does MacGruber suddenly have access to a Place effect? That's... kind of crazy actually...
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Post by sorokin on Aug 1, 2019 10:49:52 GMT
Thanks mate. Looks like quite a bit of MOW dna in those Resolutes. I think everything looks pretty good, except maybe those crossbows; those things and going to cut the bearer's hands off, guaranteed. Plus the top limb interferes with you aim and sightline. Well, PP doesn't always have the most intelligent weapon designs; take for example the Decimator's cannon, with the barrel that doesn't actually line up with any of the chambers... I mean, yeah. Vlads shoulder pads are also a pretty big offender. I know warcaster armour weights nothing, but he still cant see what is going on to his side. Also yes, Glyn works for Swans, the Motherland and CG. Butcher likes this.
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Post by P'tit Nico on Aug 1, 2019 10:53:27 GMT
Glyn: Vigilant solo, with one more def and dodge, has true sight and leadership vigilant (true sight), her gun allow a place of the damaged model 1'' Hang on a second: is Glynn available in Khador? Does MacGruber suddenly have access to a Place effect? That's... kind of crazy actually... Who's MacGruber? I'm getting sick of all the random nicknames...
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Post by Soul Samurai on Aug 1, 2019 11:03:55 GMT
Who's MacGruber? I'm getting sick of all the random nicknames... Ouch. I was pretty pretty fond of that one too. Sigh. Not even joking, I'm feeling kind of down now. Anyway, MacGruber=Andy (sorry, Andrei Malakov). Because:
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Post by auraco on Aug 1, 2019 11:43:25 GMT
Yeah she works for Khador, but the place effect only triggers on damaged on a pow 12 gun, it's not bad at all, but it's also not the end of the world. Glyn and a full unit of vigilants is 16 points, for a reasonable number of blessed high rat true sight shot, might not be for all the lists but definitively an interesting option, they are also all pretty much self sufficient, so no need for Valachev here.
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