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Post by frumiousbandersnatch on Jul 18, 2019 16:13:34 GMT
Annnd they Errata's Wild Hunt already so that the theme benefit only applies to living warbeasts (same as when it was Call of the Wild). Interesting. As to the 2 stoneshapers. They are blackclad models and two of the seem to meet the point slot they want free picks to occupy, so I guess they are an option for Secret Masters. It would be pretty silly I guess if we got, say, 2 Wayfarers for free in this theme. This theme is so bad, though, it needs all the help it can get and considering it is THE Blackclad theme if it was gonna happen it should happen here. Pretty sad this theme has not been adressed. I've been wanting to use my druids and Mistriders since Mk3 came out. The blackclads and stones are why I love this faction. Least I still got Bones lol.
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Post by Forsaken on Jul 18, 2019 16:53:54 GMT
Annnd they Errata's Wild Hunt already so that the theme benefit only applies to living warbeasts (same as when it was Call of the Wild). Interesting. Where did you hear this? I actually thought that making the wolds included was a nice touch. I guess the woldwyrds were never going to cast their animus either way. I find it odd that Una1 can no longer be taken for free in Secret masters (because they didn't want people getting free lesser warlock minions). I also can't tell if you can still take the battle engine. It's a Blackclad model right?
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Post by frumiousbandersnatch on Jul 18, 2019 20:03:53 GMT
Annnd they Errata's Wild Hunt already so that the theme benefit only applies to living warbeasts (same as when it was Call of the Wild). Interesting. Where did you hear this? I actually thought that making the wolds included was a nice touch. I guess the woldwyrds were never going to cast their animus either way. I find it odd that Una1 can no longer be taken for free in Secret masters (because they didn't want people getting free lesser warlock minions). I also can't tell if you can still take the battle engine. It's a Blackclad model right? Was on the "Warmachine & Hordes General Discussion" facebook group posted by Jeff Handley (their social media coordinator). It was apparently just a typo that all beasts got the benefit. Good to know PP's proofreading standards are still the same. Anyone else having flashback to the Mk3 factions spoilers at the end of Mk2? They also posted up Devourer's Host theme, it's functionally identical as before and is just as it was spoiled to be yesterday. Looks like the only theme we don't yet have official eyeballs on is Bones.
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Post by Dev Null on Jul 19, 2019 5:18:00 GMT
I've been wanting to use my druids and Mistriders since Mk3 came out. I don't think any theme force is going to save our druids.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Jul 19, 2019 6:20:56 GMT
I've been wanting to use my druids and Mistriders since Mk3 came out. The blackclads and stones are why I love this faction. They said Druids are getting cheaper and Mistriders will be for another Dynamic Update, because they're not done testing their intended changes yet.
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Post by jacobi on Jul 19, 2019 7:46:37 GMT
They also posted up Devourer's Host theme, it's functionally identical as before and is just as it was spoiled to be yesterday. Are wolfrider champions still a choice for free models in dev host? Because it seems to be overall "small oder medium based".
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Post by Gamingdevil on Jul 19, 2019 7:54:54 GMT
Are wolfrider champions still a choice for free models in dev host? Because it seems to be overall "small oder medium based". They're called out specifically.
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Post by jacobi on Jul 19, 2019 11:40:31 GMT
Cool Thanks!
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Post by frumiousbandersnatch on Jul 19, 2019 13:36:45 GMT
I've been wanting to use my druids and Mistriders since Mk3 came out. I don't think any theme force is going to save our druids. And funny enough, I don't think any druids could save that theme. A good theme with bad models is a bad theme and a bad/constrained theme with one decent unit is... a bad theme! Unfortunate.
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Post by brotem on Jul 19, 2019 21:41:06 GMT
I want to build Morvahna1 Wild Hunt list but they all lack that *Oumph*. I feel like taking Brennos is a trap, at the same time you want Woldwardens for geomancy and way to channel spells. Restoration on Skinwalkers as a tarpit with gang from CA and Mortality they will be able to hit and hurt things but they lack volume of attacks to clear chaff so thats where Reeves come into the play. Is Morraig worth 8pts? If you ask me NOPE, for 2 more points i get Well of Orboros. With SR 2019 ambush is getting more value but wolves of orboros without minifeat from CA won't do any work with their noodle-sticks. So how about Death Wolves who might get corpses from the well, Sköll is basicly minifeated Ravager.
As for free models i need some more solos for sure, LotF even after nerfs is still good option. When Wolf With No Name comes out in october he might be another solo worth looking into, 3rd one might be wayfarer (or i might get one from well) or War Wolves.
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Post by frumiousbandersnatch on Jul 20, 2019 22:18:50 GMT
I want to build Morvahna1 Wild Hunt list but they all lack that *Oumph*. I feel like taking Brennos is a trap, at the same time you want Woldwardens for geomancy and way to channel spells. Restoration on Skinwalkers as a tarpit with gang from CA and Mortality they will be able to hit and hurt things but they lack volume of attacks to clear chaff so thats where Reeves come into the play. Is Morraig worth 8pts? If you ask me NOPE, for 2 more points i get Well of Orboros. With SR 2019 ambush is getting more value but wolves of orboros without minifeat from CA won't do any work with their noodle-sticks. So how about Death Wolves who might get corpses from the well, Sköll is basicly minifeated Ravager. As for free models i need some more solos for sure, LotF even after nerfs is still good option. When Wolf With No Name comes out in october he might be another solo worth looking into, 3rd one might be wayfarer (or i might get one from well) or War Wolves. I had some fun playing Morvannah1 in the old Wild Hunt against Convergence and Crucible Guard mostly. The changes to Wild Hunt just make it slightly better for the most part. Cheaper animi are probably better than Tracker for the beasts. I had one or two games where I really did get some insane value out of Restoration on Skinwalkers. I think my opponent killed 7-8 Skinwalkers one game and I still had 2 or 3 left.
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Post by Trollock on Jul 21, 2019 13:18:50 GMT
As for brennos, remember that he (and the shifring stones) can be used to heal skin walkers you bring back. They come back with annaverage of 7 health under those circumstances. That makes them require more than one attack to kill and they basically never go away. It is something that needs to be tester on the table for sure!
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snap
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Post by snap on Jul 21, 2019 19:53:17 GMT
As for brennos, remember that he (and the shifring stones) can be used to heal skin walkers you bring back. They come back with annaverage of 7 health under those circumstances. That makes them require more than one attack to kill and they basically never go away. It is something that needs to be tester on the table for sure! I've come to the same conclusion on this. Except I still feel ravagers are better due to tough no knockdown.
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Post by Trollock on Jul 21, 2019 20:03:24 GMT
As for brennos, remember that he (and the shifring stones) can be used to heal skin walkers you bring back. They come back with annaverage of 7 health under those circumstances. That makes them require more than one attack to kill and they basically never go away. It is something that needs to be tester on the table for sure! I've come to the same conclusion on this. Except I still feel ravagers are better due to tough no knockdown. Probably so, but then you have no geomancers instead. Also they rely on tough to not die. The skinwalkers can rely on ARM 20 with 8 boxes to take multiple attacks to remove. Ravagers punch waaaay better, but they are more fragile. Skinwalkers rely on other models to do work, but are probably better at tanking.
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satyr
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Post by satyr on Jul 22, 2019 4:29:50 GMT
The first three list to come to mind for me were Kaya2 (favorite circle caster who I have been tinkering off and on with for 2 years or so now) in wild hunt, kromac2 in wild hunt with a woldwrath and living battlegroup, and kromac1 in dev host. Most of all I am excited to try Kaya2. This is the first list I plan to try with the gallows groves, una1, and the war wolves being my free option.
War Room Army
Circle Orboros - Kaya2 post remix
Theme: No Theme Selected 91 / 75 Army
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Kaya the Moonhunter - WB: +24 - Laris - Warpwolf Stalker - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Feral Warpwolf - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
Well of Orboros - PC: 10
Una the Falconer - PC: 4 - Storm Raptor - PC: 34 War Wolf - PC: 2 War Wolf - PC: 2 War Wolf - PC: 2 Bog Trog Mist Speaker - PC: 4 Gallows Grove - PC: 2 Gallows Grove - PC: 2 Gallows Grove - PC: 2
Wolves of Orboros - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11 - Wolves of Orboros Chieftain & Standard - Chieftain & Standard Bearer: 4 Shifting Stones - Leader & 2 Grunts: 3
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GENERATED : 07/21/2019 22:29:41 BUILD ID : 2086.19-06-25
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