jarrow
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Post by jarrow on Apr 16, 2019 5:16:48 GMT
IW lets you take Kreas and Agonizers for free which is already infinetly better than most potential freebies in PoD. Warbeast there also gain Hyper Agressive, while Troll Warbeasts gain nothing. Also Madeakalets her entire battlegroup gain grievous wounds, which is really good in todays meta, as we all noticed. I would not say PoD is unplayable, but the there benefits there are so... meh. Edit: Oh and it probably also doesnt help that Skorne have access to an actually good lesser warlock in Zaadesh while PoD is stuck with... Horgle...
So it's basicly all of them? Make sense. Grim2 is also option. Mortality is even better than take-down. And Grim2 also trumps Wurmwood.
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snot
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Post by snot on Apr 16, 2019 17:50:36 GMT
My main issue is that i always have the feeling playin with fewer stuff on the table..
Pointcosts of beasts and some units are completely off imho.
And we really pay taxes for themeforces where others really live the partytrain (devourers host, immortal...)
I think If Pod gehts viable again, we are BACK
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Post by cplmustard on Apr 16, 2019 18:01:41 GMT
Grim2 is also option. Mortality is even better than take-down. And Grim2 also trumps Wurmwood. I was trialing a grim2 storm list that I kinda liked, but I wasn't quite able to get it to gel in time for list lock so I opted for kolgrima to pair with madrak instead, but I definitely think grim has potential as a circle drop, I just have to figure out how to not get him killed trying to mortality something.
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on Apr 16, 2019 18:46:54 GMT
cplmustard: I was worried about that as well, but it hasn't been an issue for me yet: Cast Mirage on himself for further threat range on the Mortality. Reposition 3 back after he is done, and if neccesary Krump lays down the trap. Usually he activates first, so you can put models in front of him after Mortality and/or feat is out. 13'' away from what you probably killed because of Mortality on it is decent imo.
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on Apr 17, 2019 15:54:05 GMT
cplmustard : I was worried about that as well, but it hasn't been an issue for me yet: Cast Mirage on himself for further threat range on the Mortality. Reposition 3 back after he is done, and if neccesary Krump lays down the trap. Usually he activates first, so you can put models in front of him after Mortality and/or feat is out. 13'' away from what you probably killed because of Mortality on it is decent imo. I always play Grim2 with Bonegrinders just for that little extra cushion.
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mazog
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Post by mazog on Apr 17, 2019 22:56:19 GMT
I rather likes the idea of bonegrinders as a source of GW but haven't played them enough to get them forward where they can apply it while still being able to support my caster.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Apr 18, 2019 6:11:24 GMT
I rather likes the idea of bonegrinders as a source of GW but haven't played them enough to get them forward where they can apply it while still being able to support my caster. Pretty sure the idea is to make Mortality RNG 12.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Apr 18, 2019 11:24:14 GMT
So, Mirage up+Bone Grinders+ice troll+pyg still alive gives essentially, range 14 mortality, kill something with the gun, then repo back 2+3. That's intriguing, not sure if its good......
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on Apr 18, 2019 11:34:57 GMT
Sounds like wayy too many eggs in the basket just to cast Mortality. Like 14 pts. of eggs - happy easter! =D
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Post by mydnight on Apr 18, 2019 11:45:16 GMT
So the Dhunian Archon can at least save Grim2's two friends
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Apr 18, 2019 13:00:23 GMT
Sounds like wayy too many eggs in the basket just to cast Mortality. Like 14 pts. of eggs - happy easter! =D I dunno. Ice Troll is pretty universally useful. He's got a gun, which Grim likes, he's got a good animus. Min boney grinders are only 5 points and most of my troll lists have a merc/minion option to give them some flexibility anyways and they can be a late game throw away unit to contest. Hitting a 14 inch Mortality and then back up to safety to have some ambushing bears come in on something sounds pretty spicy. And if they clump into the middle to avoid bears you can fire eater/Raider them to a similar affect. I don't feel that the points cost is particularly absurd unless your taking it in a vacuum. Bomber/Ice is my typical group for Grissel2, it might swap over to Grim2. I'll check it out at least
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on May 12, 2019 20:29:22 GMT
I am not so much of the doom guy, but I think were SR18 was challenging SR19 is outright the most spread out that scenarios can be. On the same time we can focus on one zone with the stone and easily ambush into the other zone. What are your thoughts? Did anyone try the new scenarios?
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on May 12, 2019 20:50:41 GMT
I AM the doom guy ( ) SR19 might just push me over the edge... aka jump faction. I don't play the Krielstone anymore, but contesting is gonna be even more difficult against the big boys. I don't think it will change much - or at least enough to help Trollbloods. What you need in SR19 is solid units/beasts/etc. that are good on their own and can do stuff with little support. What are you sending in to contest? I desperately throw in northkin raiders and fire eaters, but they crumble so fast in my meta.. Troopmachine is back I guess! Wohoo!
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Post by beardmonk on May 12, 2019 22:56:04 GMT
What are you sending in to contest? I desperately throw in northkin raiders and fire eaters, but they crumble so fast in my meta.. Kriel Warriors, Fens, Champs and Warders. Im quite a fan of Kriels as they are 11pts for 10 and get a good armour under the stone or in melee.
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jarrow
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Post by jarrow on May 13, 2019 4:58:01 GMT
I tested Anarchy and it felt really dirty to threat nearly whole zone with bears. And King of the hill is even better.
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