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Post by hogridrluv on Feb 10, 2019 6:33:45 GMT
So I just played a game and ran an ashlynn resistance list using two units of arcane tempest gun mages with officer. One unit marshalling a mule and the other a Mariner. I don't know if that's entirely legal but war room allowed it so I went for it for fun and let me tell you it was a blast(literally) to play. Getting all of the critical brutal damage and devastation on feat turn was amazing, sadly it was paired against arm skew and still didn't do much damage. Anyone else try something like this?
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Post by Charistoph on Feb 10, 2019 16:07:23 GMT
It is legal under the Llaelese Resistance as they can take up to 2 Cygnar/CG/Protectorate units and they are considered to be friendly Llaelese Mercenary units instead of their original faction, so long as they don't include Ranking Officers.
The ATGM haven't been the most popular option, as people have been either looking at fast irregular infantry from the CG; the Knights, Masses, or Choir of the Protectorate; or the more abusive aspects of Trench warfare that Cygnar provides.
But hey, one of the more interesting aspects of the game is that some styles get overlooked and can be quite effective since they aren't regularly considered to fight against.
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Post by mydnight on Feb 10, 2019 21:47:12 GMT
Like most merc themes LR struggles into armour.
Hence if you spend your out of faction options on pillow fisted attacks you tend to get destroyed (unless you play crucible guard rocketman and just tie things up forever instead).
Having said that I typically play Ashlynn with Gastonne and a mule. The Mule will soon get buffed (+2 range and -1 cost).
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Post by postindirty on Feb 24, 2019 22:16:10 GMT
a friend one listed an event last year with an Ashlynn list running double thorns (and maybe ATGMs, but not sure), and the whole point was to push stuff around. It was amazing to see how effective it was against Gaspy3 Slayers, where he just threw the jacks all over the place and handily won on scenario
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Post by mazog on Feb 25, 2019 4:31:52 GMT
a friend one listed an event last year with an Ashlynn list running double thorns (and maybe ATGMs, but not sure), and the whole point was to push stuff around. It was amazing to see how effective it was against Gaspy3 Slayers, where he just threw the jacks all over the place and handily won on scenario I mean, that is what the retribution magic and force field Jack theme is all about, and I haven't heard as much about it lately, but you don't hear as much complaining about derp turtles these days, either. Heck, it's basically what Ossrum was doing, too, although he could actually kill stuff in addition to moving it around. |
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Post by borderprince on Feb 25, 2019 7:50:23 GMT
a friend one listed an event last year with an Ashlynn list running double thorns (and maybe ATGMs, but not sure), and the whole point was to push stuff around. It was amazing to see how effective it was against Gaspy3 Slayers, where he just threw the jacks all over the place and handily won on scenario I mean, that is what the retribution magic and force field Jack theme is all about, and I haven't heard as much about it lately, but you don't hear as much complaining about derp turtles these days, either. Heck, it's basically what Ossrum was doing, too, although he could actually kill stuff in addition to moving it around. I imagine part of the problem is Khador Armored Corps. Units of Shocktroopers with the UA can't be pushed or knocked down and are sufficiently tough to pose a problem for a list built around movement tricks. Given some of us are building AC lists with 2 units of Shocktroopers, it could be a serious problem for that kind of build. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Feb 25, 2019 12:20:02 GMT
Also the most popular Skorne list atm is just completely immune to pushes
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Post by mazog on Feb 26, 2019 0:43:50 GMT
Good points, all. As a trollblood player I don't notice immunity to push rules much.
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Post by Xintas on Feb 26, 2019 20:39:20 GMT
I like running the TGM in Llaelese, but I've found my other units have to have more punch due to a lot of the reasons that have been listed. I think TGM + Rocketmans are better than ATGM plus marshalled jacks, but I can see why it's appealing.
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Post by flogger on Apr 23, 2019 7:05:55 GMT
So great to see someone else trying this!
I’m playing Ashlynn with this:
War Room Army
Mercenary - Ash
Theme: Llaelese Resistance
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Ashlynn d'Elyse - WJ: +29
- Mule - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14)
- Mule - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14)
- Mule - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1)
- Mangler - PC: 15
Taryn di la Rovissi, Llaelese Gun Mage - PC: 0
Thorn Gun Mages - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Thorn Gun Mages - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages - Leader & 5 Grunts: 11
- Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer - PC: 0
Tempest Blazers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18
It’s SO much fun to throw and push everything around,
I did play with 4 mules first but noticed a problem in arm crack and since I was a point under I replaced one mule with a Mangler. That makes the list hit a lot harder and gallows is all of a sudden a real threat to pull something in range of the Mangler.
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Post by smoth on Apr 23, 2019 20:20:57 GMT
Also the most popular Skorne list atm is just completely immune to pushes Can you elucidate this list? |
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Post by sorokin on Apr 23, 2019 21:32:06 GMT
Also the most popular Skorne list atm is just completely immune to pushes Can you elucidate this list? Theme: The Exalted Denefit: Construct models gain immovable object. So you just take all the statues with the battle engine. Tbf, the living extollers, warbeast and your warlock is not affected by this, so cygnarguy has a bit of a hyperbole there. |
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Post by Xintas on Apr 24, 2019 13:30:10 GMT
A bit, but the point stands. This is exactly the kind of thing 2 list pairings are designed to cover.
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