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Post by MrHaystacks on May 2, 2017 13:54:37 GMT
Seems to me a question of critical mass.... .... Greylords+Doomies. 3 units (doomies, Outriders, Ternions). 2 Solos (Bad Santa and Fenris). Seems plausible here with 1 more solo create critical mass. Dont for get the Forge Seer is a grey lord also. And we have 3 casters labeled as Grey Lords also.
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Post by Cryptix on May 2, 2017 15:41:32 GMT
My ideas for the Assault Kommandos based on my IKRPG character's army was:
Assault Kommandos (Flame Thrower WA) Kommando Bombards, a 4/6 unit armed with rocket launchers and with CRA. Kommando Assassins, a 2 man unit armed with Death Whispers and trench knives with anatomical precision. Kommando Veteran, 4 point kommando solo with veteran leader and tactician Dervisher, a SPD5 jack with custom warjack (strakhov) armed with a flamethrower and fist.
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Post by sand20go on May 2, 2017 15:59:42 GMT
Seems to me a question of critical mass.... .... Greylords+Doomies. 3 units (doomies, Outriders, Ternions). 2 Solos (Bad Santa and Fenris). Seems plausible here with 1 more solo create critical mass. Dont for get the Forge Seer is a grey lord also. And we have 3 casters labeled as Grey Lords also.
Yes. But isn't the Forge Seer "covered" in the force book (ditto all the casters). What I was trying to do was identify those models who are not "in the books" already. I completely agree that those 4 current models all are suggestive of a tightly constrained (and potentially very fun) theme force.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 2, 2017 16:17:36 GMT
Hasn't PP made clear that they won't be printing rules in any more books?
If so then the Books about our favorite units could really have much good writing in them.
Also Lets not forget: There is a Future MOW warcaster!
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Post by Cryptix on May 3, 2017 12:37:40 GMT
Hasn't PP made clear that they won't be printing rules in any more books? If so then the Books about our favorite units could really have much good writing in them. Also Lets not forget: There is a Future MOW warcaster! Silly Rowdy, that's impossible while PP refuses to even acknowledge the thought that a warcaster could even be in warcaster armor . Literally, you can't even do it in the RPG.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 12:45:04 GMT
Silly Rowdy, that's impossible while PP refuses to even acknowledge the thought that a warcaster could even be in warcaster armor . Literally, you can't even do it in the RPG. Pheh. That RPG is made Bass Ackwards. When your X Ray Spell is more concerned with telling you how you ignore cover but not the whole: Look through walls thing: The RPG works to justify the tabletop game. Even if it makes -0 Sense. Plus They could always just customize it. Make the engine more stable would be all it takes to be warcaster worthy.
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Post by khador247 on May 3, 2017 13:43:51 GMT
Ugh, I just want our damned MOW theme force already. When are we getting it?
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Post by Cryptix on May 3, 2017 14:45:37 GMT
Inb4 it turns out everyone gets Wall of Stee in the theme force and everyone reuses to play against us.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 14:53:53 GMT
Ugh, I just want our damned MOW theme force already. When are we getting it? When we get it, we also get a MOW CID. Prepare for Demo Cores and Bombardiers to become awesome! In my mind the Demo Core need to hit harder, or provide some massive utility (Regular Freeze). Otherwise, they either compete with Uhlans or Shocktroopers.
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Post by khador247 on May 3, 2017 17:22:34 GMT
I think the DC need to regain their ability to swing twice. They were underwhelming already and losing that just made things worse. I'm ok with P&S 16 since we have so many damage buffs. Crit Freeze is odd for them. They're already MAT 7 so they don't have a hard time hitting. Maybe give them something new like Crit Armor Cracker. On a critical hit target enemy model has its ARM reduced by 2 for the remainder of the turn. A model can only be affected by Crit Armor Cracker once per turn (stacking could get silly). Basically from a fluff standpoint it would represent the Ice Mauls cracking through the armor plating and exposing the weaker insides.
I think the Bombadiers need love. P&S13 seems way too low for the Chain Blades. AOE 3 cannons with no effect are underwhelming. Either the AOEs need to be bigger or the AOEs should do something like cause fire. Having more range would be nice too. RNG 10 on a SPD 4 model is kinda sucky. I think 12 would be ok.
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Post by Cryptix on May 3, 2017 17:40:38 GMT
Why not crit armor piercing? The ripjaw has it and its 7 points and has powerful attack.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 17:48:23 GMT
Hey I have an even betterer idea:
Why not drop crit effects into a flaming ditch like a barrel of steaming manure? This is a 5 Man Unit for petes sake, with only vlad2 to boost attack rolls with.
How about they just do one thing very well. Im fine with them remaining as slow and as vulnerable as now, but hit ULTRA hard. To make them a worthwhile delivery.
Or again they could benefit from some amazing utility like automatic freeze. Otherwise they are just second rate Shocktroopers.
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Post by auraco on May 3, 2017 17:59:34 GMT
The demo corps have less hitting power than before, the old ice breaker made them pow 14 weapon master before, now with pow 16 they hit less hard than before. They got less versatile than before and lost def. I'm guessing the CID for the Man-O-War theme force will also give them the Bane treatment, where they get rule change and the theme force give them more cool stuff.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on May 3, 2017 18:03:47 GMT
They got less versatile than before and lost def. I'm guessing the CID for the Man-O-War theme force will also give them the Bane treatment, where they get rule change and the theme force give them more cool stuff. Exactly! Man I can't wait to field the First Full Medium Sized Khadoran Army.
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Post by Cryptix on May 3, 2017 18:08:15 GMT
They got less versatile than before and lost def. I'm guessing the CID for the Man-O-War theme force will also give them the Bane treatment, where they get rule change and the theme force give them more cool stuff. Exactly! Man I can't wait to field the First Full Medium Sized Khadoran Army. The only medium-based caster is Butcher :V
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