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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 17, 2019 21:19:17 GMT
I really like the idea. Some ideas to consider would be a bomber instead of a brawler for snipe on madrak. Instead of a Max unit champs a min unit and a min unit warders could help deliver ur army better.
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Post by dickovdk on Jan 18, 2019 11:46:43 GMT
Just a side note I realised yesterday dojoing my version of Madrak2 - I will take a EBDT well because its a "cheap" good heavy - as a plus he indirectly provide an aoe3 cloud to help screen off madrak2 as he walks up the board. This is thanks to Runebearer throwing Eruption on an immune Earthborn. Yes I know its only an AOE3 and yes I know Maddy2 can sacrifice dudes. But its a nice little feature for a caster that need to get in the middle of everyone. beside imagine living the dream standing within 2" of a pond and house - then we have an earthborn in a cloud on def 16 arm 22 which threat upto 14" away I am personally going with the dobbelt Long riders - mostly because i love that idea and BOH need to move fast over the table - I am not touching the Champs in this as they are slow and everything already hit hard enuff. Maybe a min unit fennblades to be in the way before the LR come charging in.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Jan 18, 2019 16:02:00 GMT
I don't love Champs into most other medium bases, and with this feat in particular I'm not a huge fan of 1 inch melee range (although to be fair they also have overtake). It could definitely work, but this is more what I was thinking: conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0a4Xjn9Djq6G6G0l0m0b0c6m6mTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Band of Heroes [Madrak 2] Madrak Ironhide, World Ender [+28] - Dire Troll Brawler [16] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Fell Caller Hero [0(5)] Fell Caller Hero [0(5)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Fennblades (max) [15] - Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer [5] Trollkin Long Riders (max) [20] Trollkin Long Riders (max) [20] I really like Brawler's with warpath.
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Post by joedj on Jan 20, 2019 14:54:40 GMT
Only problem I have with the Brawler is MAT 6. Difficulty hitting DEF >12, with no MAT buff. Played last night he missed too often against troopers, whereas a Fenn Officer, MAT 9 (Fell Caller) Feat-Pacman-ed through a unit+, earning me a CP.
But I'll probably stick with the Brawler, if only to give our in-house AC Khador builds something to consider...
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jan 20, 2019 16:40:17 GMT
Only problem I have with the Brawler is MAT 6. Difficulty hitting DEF >12, with no MAT buff. Played last night he missed too often against troopers, whereas a Fenn Officer, MAT 9 (Fell Caller) Feat-Pacman-ed through a unit+, earning me a CP. But I'll probably stick with the Brawler, if only to give our in-house AC Khador builds something to consider... FWIW, he is Northkin and gets +1 from the Hooch Hauler. I wanted a Range Caller for Kriel Company, but how about a Beast Caller for POD? Even if they are both characters. Heal and Condition could be Fell Calls, right? Or any solo with Veteran Leader: Trollblood Warbeast, though that sounds even less likely...
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Post by profdikweed on Jan 21, 2019 2:45:53 GMT
Jadens list is scarily similar to a good Australian troll players 'kill the world' list that he plays. Pretty sure its bomber/mauler though, unaure where the other 3 pts comes from. Min stone maybe?
Only reason i havent tried it is i havent got double longriders...
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Post by chevelle on Jan 22, 2019 5:51:23 GMT
@los Jaden Would you Change your Grim1 huge base list to adept to the meta (for example by fitting in a Mist Speaker) or would you still play your L&L version ?
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Post by LoS Jaden on Jan 22, 2019 14:45:03 GMT
@los Jaden Would you Change your Grim1 huge base list to adept to the meta (for example by fitting in a Mist Speaker) or would you still play your L&L version ? I am unsure. You can do it by dropping the thumper crew and making the elder free I believe, but there doesn't seem to be many cloud walls in the meta so it's difficult to say. It's also jarrow s list originally, so perhaps he has some insight.
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Post by chevelle on Jan 23, 2019 6:04:16 GMT
@los Jaden Thanks for answering. @ jarrow Would you change your list at all to adept to the current meta ?
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Post by jarrow on Jan 23, 2019 6:08:49 GMT
I think weapon crew has better use on list than mist-speaker. As Jaden said cloud walls are falling a little bit behind as every hordes faction have now answer to them and warmachine factions will get steelhead arcanist on couple of months. The list also spreads so wide that couple of clouds do not matter.
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Post by joedj on Jan 23, 2019 6:38:38 GMT
Only problem I have with the Brawler is MAT 6. Difficulty hitting DEF >12, with no MAT buff. Played last night he missed too often against troopers, whereas a Fenn Officer, MAT 9 (Fell Caller) Feat-Pacman-ed through a unit+, earning me a CP. But I'll probably stick with the Brawler, if only to give our in-house AC Khador builds something to consider... FWIW, he is Northkin and gets +1 from the Hooch Hauler. I wanted a Range Caller for Kriel Company, but how about a Beast Caller for POD? Even if they are both characters. Heal and Condition could be Fell Calls, right? Or any solo with Veteran Leader: Trollblood Warbeast, though that sounds even less likely... Good reminder, I had forgotten that large bubble affects NK warbeasts as well. Though the models to target by a +1 MAT enhanced Brawler are usually well spread out on two different sides, by the cagey opponents I play. Our Runeshaper units should have some type of beast interaction, they really should have been our Serenity+ models. A solo that 'juices' beasts, even only light warbeasts would be a welcome, diversifying addition to PoD and KC.
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Post by chevelle on Jan 23, 2019 6:50:36 GMT
@jarrow Thanks !
I find it really hard to find a pairing with Trolls, that can handle the best lists in the meta right now (Tharn, Skorne, Menoth, Crucible Guard,...) which is really sad and so I can understand, that there are not so many of them at the ATC.
There is a team tournament with 20 Teams (3 man) in Germany on the weekend and there will be 4 guys playing Trolls, which is "Ok" I think.
Only 4 Casters being played: Kolgrima (4), Madrak1 (2), Doomy3 and Jarl
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2019 14:01:10 GMT
I am one of the German players and decided to play kolgrima and doomy3. In my opinion the meta is shifting away from champions and we have to rethink our lists.
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Post by Trollock on Jan 23, 2019 14:07:39 GMT
I am one of the German players and decided to play kolgrima and doomy3. In my opinion the meta is shifting away from champions and we have to rethink our lists. With tharn and Primal terrors being on most ppls mind, dont you fear that anti healing will be more common, and doomy 3 will struggle even more? He already has scenario issues imo, and so many ppl whipping out their mortality casters or wot not cant be good for him, can it?
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Post by allinontrolls on Jan 23, 2019 14:20:58 GMT
I am playing mulg + mk. I am not really fearing Mortality. Doomy3 asks the opponent if he is able to one round an mk which is kind of spell immune. If yes I play my second list or if scenario is an issue. The main problem vs tharn should be the lord who could easy kill the stone or my caster.
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