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Post by stripmore on Jan 22, 2019 8:38:16 GMT
If you want to deal with infantry, I'd suggest Lyllyth2 in CotD, RoW, or OoA. Would you mind share some list ideas, please?
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Post by onijet01 on Jan 22, 2019 11:22:37 GMT
If you want to deal with infantry, I'd suggest Lyllyth2 in CotD, RoW, or OoA. Would you mind share some list ideas, please? Something like this.. (flavor and adjust to taste) conflictchamber.com/?ca201b_-0uaBbfbfbfbfaKbraTaUaTaUbjblLegion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Children of the Dragon [Lylyth 2] Lylyth, Shadow of Everblight [+28] - Nephilim Bolt Thrower [11] - Nephilim Bolt Thrower [11] - Nephilim Bolt Thrower [11] - Nephilim Bolt Thrower [11] - Nephilim Protector [10] Blackfrost Shard [9] Blighted Nyss Archers (max) [13] - Blighted Nyss Archer Officer & Ammo Porter [0(5)] Blighted Nyss Archers (max) [13] - Blighted Nyss Archer Officer & Ammo Porter [5] Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters (min) [9] - Bayal, Hound of Everblight [0(6)]
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Post by snotling on Jan 22, 2019 11:35:30 GMT
Or just any caster with a hitbuff, thrones and sorcs on hellions. Also lets you no loose on szenario.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jan 22, 2019 18:50:51 GMT
If you want to deal with infantry, I'd suggest Lyllyth2 in CotD, RoW, or OoA. Would you mind share some list ideas, please? For CotD, Azreal and Zuriel are both great beasts for Lyllyth2. Azreal appreciates the extra shot, and Zuriel loves gunfighter. Pin cushion makes their ranged attacks scarier as well. Bolt throwers are always nice to have, so i'd take a couple. Also, you don't have to worry about fury as much with Lyllyth2 as she has soothing song. That said, 3 shepherds are still highly suggested. After that, Archers and Raptors are great with her. I prefer archers as they take Mirage really well, and under feat can deliver 3 RAT 16 POW 21 attacks. You'll cripple something pretty badly at the least. And if you bring Archers, Craelix will be all the more happy. I'd bring some warlords for melee presence, as well. For RoW, you can bring Grotesque Banshees and throw around more sprays than your opponent could shake a finger at. You'll be using pin cushion a lot more to support your infantry, so I would suggest bringing a bloodseer or two to help pin cushion stick. For warbeasts, your options are a bit more limited. You lose out on the characters, but keep the bolt throwers. In RoW you do get the Seraph however, and you can bring Teraphs if you want to try them. Of course, you also get Raptors in RoW, and I'd argue RoW is the better theme to play Raptors in. Finally, for OoA, you would bring an AA, and spam Ravagores and Teraphs (along with a Seraph, probably). You'll be using Soothing Song a lot more than Pin Cushion for this, and on feat turn you will rain down AOEs. Bring some Sorceress on Hellions and you'll have the best army to deal with 1 pt. infantry, and a lot of continuous fire for tough infantry. For dealing with infantry, I would ultimately suggest doing RoW or OoA. The CotD list I gave you is more along the lines of armor cracking than anything else.
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Post by fanbloodytastic on Feb 19, 2019 2:51:42 GMT
Yeah the list seems better with a seraph: conflictchamber.com/?ca201b_-0-gNkKeJeJaOkBcob9b6kLkJfTfTLegion Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Primal Terrors [Fyanna 2] Fyanna, Torment of Everblight [+28] - Golab [17] - Neraph [12] - Neraph [12] - Seraph [14] - Ammok the Truthbearer [4] Spell Martyr [1] The Forsaken [4] Blighted Ogrun Warmongers (max) [13] - Gorag Rotteneye [6] Chosen of Everblight (max) [20] Hellmouth [0(6)] Hellmouth [0(6)] Chosen must hit like a freight train when they have Fury. My only concern in this is fury management. I know there's a Forsaken in there, but its still a concern. I'd personally swap out the Martyr for a Shepherd for the purposes of spot removal. A little bit of thread necro, but I finally tried this Fyanna list out with proxy’s (spell martyr sub’d for a swamp gobber chef because shepherds aren’t allowed in PT). A couple of mistakes by my opponent (first time arkadius) let me get an early scenario lead and then a quick victory but I thought the list felt pretty promising. In quite a while this will probably be my first PT list as it is way less of an investment for me when compared to the blight bringer builds.
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Post by davycannonhound on Feb 19, 2019 6:09:45 GMT
My only concern in this is fury management. I know there's a Forsaken in there, but its still a concern. I'd personally swap out the Martyr for a Shepherd for the purposes of spot removal. A little bit of thread necro, but I finally tried this Fyanna list out with proxy’s (spell martyr sub’d for a swamp gobber chef because shepherds aren’t allowed in PT). A couple of mistakes by my opponent (first time arkadius) let me get an early scenario lead and then a quick victory but I thought the list felt pretty promising. In quite a while this will probably be my first PT list as it is way less of an investment for me when compared to the blight bringer builds. I completely forgot that PT didn't allow Shepherds. Hur durr. But, glad to hear you think its a promising list!
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Post by novaspike on Feb 26, 2019 14:02:13 GMT
I've been on a big Convergence kick, but I've decided to being back my Legion this week to shake things up a bit.
I had a weird Twins CotD/Lylyth3 PT pairing I was playing but wanted to start again from scratch (and play with a few models I had gotten over the holidays).
Dojo-ing made me realize that I really don't like Legion's themes all that much (building wise anyway). So I present my 'Legion' list (or my "Dragons-ninjas-trolls-fish-gator-pigs" list)
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - But why?!
Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army
Saeryn & Rhyas, Talons of Everblight - WB: +24 - Saeryn & Rhyas, Talons of Everblight (Cont.) - Seraph - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Golab - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)
Meat Thresher - PC: 16
Underchief Mire - PC: 4 - Swamp Horror - PC: 15 - Swamp Troll - PC: 8 Wrong Eye - Wrong Eye & Snapjaw: 17 - Snapjaw
Farrow Valkyries - Leader & 2 Grunts:
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Post by mazog on Feb 27, 2019 2:49:08 GMT
Novaspike, don't get me wrong here, I love the swamp troll and try to fit it in all my troll lists (and I only play trollblood) but I rarely manage to keep him in the list. The tongue is a lot of fun but not reliable enough for assassination and has a high risk-reward ratio in my experience. He is Borka2's best friend, but that is because I can reliable apply swarm to incoming enemies with counter charge. I am confused why you would put him in here, though, unless it is just for diversity.
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Post by custardboy on Feb 27, 2019 3:39:21 GMT
I'm just confused by all of it. Twins are selfish so don't mind minions, but why *those* minions?
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Post by novaspike on Feb 27, 2019 3:48:44 GMT
Novaspike, don't get me wrong here, I love the swamp troll and try to fit it in all my troll lists (and I only play trollblood) but I rarely manage to keep him in the list. The tongue is a lot of fun but not reliable enough for assassination and has a high risk-reward ratio in my experience. He is Borka2's best friend, but that is because I can reliable apply swarm to incoming enemies with counter charge. I am confused why you would put him in here, though, unless it is just for diversity. Partially for diversity (I got him around Christmas so I thought I'd give him a couple shots). Swarm is potentially nice to park near Rhyas for more starcrossed shenanigans. It's also a bit extra fury for Mire and another way to get stealth without having to cast his cloud. That being said for the 8 points I think I'd rather have a hellmouth and maybe a couple spell martyrs. Overall it's a silly list that's providing an outlet for some odds and ends models that I don't play much. I just really dislike list building in Legion right now and Twins feel like they're in an odd place (no theme gives them exactly the kit they want).
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Post by mazog on Feb 27, 2019 12:04:33 GMT
Fair enough. I have played Storm of the North almost exclusively since the CID, but that is because it gave us access to things (AD, ambush, and combined arms infantry) that weren't available in any other theme. It has gotten a bit stale, but it is just so hard to walk away from the bears and fire eaters!
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Post by novaspike on Mar 1, 2019 14:33:08 GMT
Got a quick battle report; I got a chance to play a 50 point version of my silly list. Consisted of Twins w/golab and a neraph, Mire and a swamp troll, wrongeye and snapjaw, and the meat thresher. Played vs gore2 dark host (desicrator and harrower, 2 units of warriors with CA, a unit of knights, tartatus, and a necrotech).
I mispositioned golab too far forward on my turn 1 (I was 2nd player) and 3 warriors were able to charge him (because of apparition). Luckily he lived, but was on 8 boxes. On my turn I was able to clear one full unit of warriors and a couple knights, as well as 5 or 6 warriors from another unit (most of which were within 5 of golab, so he healed and they were RFP). Golab wrecked a harrower, but I decided not to sprint him back to body block for wrongeye (so I had a transfer target and to contest a flag).
I forgot about ghostly and my opponent got some good licks back. He was able to kill the thresher and Mire (a single knight had LOS to him) and because I didn't move golab, was able to get tartarus to wrongeye. Shade also charged and killed golab. With starcrossed down he was able to get the last few warriors into melee with the twins and took them out.
The game was actually much closer than I expected it to be. If I had been a bit better about my positioning (and therefore not died) I think I would have been able to clear the flag and zone I held, leaving him with a single jack and slightly reduced unit of knights to hold the other zone.
Going back to the list, I'm definitely going to cut the swamp troll. I took him here because he was the only beast that fit points-wise, but in general the swamp horror has better attack output and elasticity is so good on the meat thresher (the knights being in little triangles prevented me from bulldozing more and getting a lot more kills, but if I had 2" melee I would have killed about half of them). The seraph (and flare) are great, but the list is super low, model count so having a support heavy is a bit of a drag.
The next time I try it at 75 points I'm cutting the seraph and adding Typhon, and cutting the swamp troll and adding a unit of swamp gobbers.
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