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Post by newangel on Dec 31, 2018 13:40:13 GMT
Since the Tharn release I've been testing several different lists to find the most optimal one for my meta. Baldur1 works for me and I've been having huge success with it locally. While this thread isn't really meant to talk about the merits of the list I'm using, it is probably necessary to show the list for reference. This is what I'm currently using:
Baldur1 -Ghetorix -Gnarlhorn Satyr
Whitemane LotF (free) Wolf Rider Champion (free) Wolf Rider Champion (free) Ravager Shaman Night Witch
Croc Pot Brighid and Caul Max Ravagers with C/A Max Bloodtrackers with C/A Bloodweavers
Shifting Stones
While this could be subject to some change (the Night Witch could easily be replaced by a Blood Shaman or even a Mistspeaker), I feel the core of the list doesn't need to change...don't fix what isn't broken. But with the above list I'm looking for a pair for local Steamroller events. My meta has a smattering of Khador, Skorne, PoM, Circle, CG and Retribution as my most likely opponents. Sometimes Mercs, Grymkin, LoE and CoC show up. For the most part I feel the Baldur list has a lot of bases covered and really it's just the mirror, CoC (Orion), PoM (Harbinger) and Skorne (Makeda3/Rasheth) that I'm concerned about. To that end I'm looking for some help finding a pair.
My initial assumption is eKrueger in Secret Masters with Una1 running the big bird would be amazing into some of the above, but I have some doubts. I'm unsure how good it would be into Harbinger with a Judicator. Is it the pulse that makes it shine? I'm not seeing the quantity of attacks needed aside from that to make martyrdom a dangerous tool. The bird is such a large investment I feel it does cut down the number of attacks you can make.
For the Skorne match-up I have had some success into Rasheth, but Makeda3 is a new beast and I saw today from the sidelines how devastating she can be. Tharn would just get chewed up so I definitely need to look at a pair that can survive what she is bringing.
The other local Circle player hasn't really figured out how to NOT build Tharn lists yet so I'm hoping to get the drop on him. The Bird seems like it would be devastating into him, but then, any sprays would do the job just as well.
CoC I'm not familiar enough with, but something tells me that Mage Sight would be very bad for Baldur. He's not particularly survivable outside of his forest and feat and he doesn't tend to camp a ton.
Any advice is appreciated.
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Post by Trollock on Dec 31, 2018 13:54:58 GMT
For starters, what do you NOT want to play against with Baldur?
You mention the juducator with harbinger, and that may be true as it is very effective against the ravagers. What else do you see as a problem?
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Post by newangel on Dec 31, 2018 14:05:41 GMT
Harbinger is the big one. 20" Purification is ball busting for him - 14" is more manageable due to distance usually keeping Solid Ground up. Lots of Sprays can be bad news and a large amount of Grievous Wounds. Oh...and Mage Sight...so easily assassinated. Basically forest ignoring ranged assassinations, serious infantry hate, Purification and Grievous Wounds. That boils down to mostly the mirror match (where locally I may expect Una2 or Morvahna1 both in Dev Host, Makeda3, Orion, and Harbinger).
Edit: Also missed Morghoul2. Seems bad to play infantry into that, though is probably very terrain dependent.
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Post by Trollock on Jan 1, 2019 18:30:37 GMT
How about Wurmwood in bones?
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Post by onijet01 on Jan 2, 2019 9:56:57 GMT
Stupid idea incoming but... conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0WgU4B4BcHcHcHcHefef5H5H5H5H5A5g5gmV4k5f5fCircle Army - 73 / 75 points [Theme] Call of the Wild [Kaya 3] Kaya the Wildheart [+27] - Gorax Rager [7] - Gorax Rager [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Rotterhorn Griffon [7] - Rotterhorn Griffon [7] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Druid Wilder [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Gallows Grove [2] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Shifting Stones [3] Shifting Stones [3] No reason behing the list outside def/ box skew. It does have many free charge angles and potentials. |
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Post by shoe on Jan 2, 2019 20:42:59 GMT
y are people aksing for advice on circle? we just had two palayers come back after 8 months away, pick up teh new thran and both go undefeated at last weeks tounament, but u clowns gave awful feedback in teh cid and broke ur faction so hear we is i guess.
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Post by paradox on Jan 2, 2019 20:55:30 GMT
y are people aksing for advice on circle? we just had two palayers come back after 8 months away, pick up teh new thran and both go undefeated at last weeks tounament, but u clowns gave awful feedback in teh cid and broke ur faction so hear we is i guess. Why are you shitposting on someone looking for advice? |
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Post by shoe on Jan 2, 2019 21:45:36 GMT
y are people aksing for advice on circle? we just had two palayers come back after 8 months away, pick up teh new thran and both go undefeated at last weeks tounament, but u clowns gave awful feedback in teh cid and broke ur faction so hear we is i guess. Why are you shitposting on someone looking for advice? i think that i alreddy answerd that |
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Post by LoS Jaden on Jan 2, 2019 21:54:02 GMT
y are people aksing for advice on circle? we just had two palayers come back after 8 months away, pick up teh new thran and both go undefeated at last weeks tounament, but u clowns gave awful feedback in teh cid and broke ur faction so hear we is i guess. You mean the CID where more data was submitted than any other single faction CID? Or the CID where more people called for nerfs to their own models than any other CID? Or the CID which had the least inflammatory, awful posts in the T&L section in 2018? Yeah, awful feedback. |
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Post by LoS Jaden on Jan 2, 2019 22:22:26 GMT
Stupid idea incoming but... conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0WgU4B4BcHcHcHcHefef5H5H5H5H5A5g5gmV4k5f5fCircle Army - 73 / 75 points [Theme] Call of the Wild [Kaya 3] Kaya the Wildheart [+27] - Gorax Rager [7] - Gorax Rager [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Razorwing Griffon [7] - Rotterhorn Griffon [7] - Rotterhorn Griffon [7] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Druid Wilder [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Gallows Grove [2] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Shifting Stones [3] Shifting Stones [3] No reason behing the list outside def/ box skew. It does have many free charge angles and potentials. This would just be flat better as Una 2, and it doesn't fix the Harbinger problem the OP is posting. If you were going to play a Kaya list it should do something unique that Una 2 doesn't do. |
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Post by shoe on Jan 2, 2019 22:40:05 GMT
y are people aksing for advice on circle? we just had two palayers come back after 8 months away, pick up teh new thran and both go undefeated at last weeks tounament, but u clowns gave awful feedback in teh cid and broke ur faction so hear we is i guess. You mean the CID where more data was submitted than any other single faction CID? Or the CID where more people called for nerfs to their own models than any other CID? Or the CID which had the least inflammatory, awful posts in the T&L section in 2018? Yeah, awful feedback. haha. arent u teh guy who was misplaying winter argeese in teh facebook forums? and yeah, all dat feedback ended up wid circle busted once again so i reckon it was pretty awful |
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Post by LoS Jaden on Jan 2, 2019 22:56:10 GMT
You mean the CID where more data was submitted than any other single faction CID? Or the CID where more people called for nerfs to their own models than any other CID? Or the CID which had the least inflammatory, awful posts in the T&L section in 2018? Yeah, awful feedback. haha. arent u teh guy who was misplaying winter argeese in teh facebook forums? and yeah, all dat feedback ended up wid circle busted once again so i reckon it was pretty awful Sure was, turns out I got a complicated timing interaction incorrect in a few different casual games. I'm also the guy who's top tabled about a dozen cons in the last two years and written more WMH content in mark 3 than anyone else on the planet. Interesting how perspective vastly changes depending on what angle you look at someone from huh? Circle is nowhere near busted. Iona is pushing the boundaries of the curve, LotF shouldn't be free, but the rest of the faction is comfortably within the normal bounds of the rest of the game. |
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Post by paradox on Jan 2, 2019 22:58:20 GMT
Why are you shitposting on someone looking for advice? i think that i alreddy answerd that No, not really. Your initial comment just looks completely uncalled for. So I guess I should just assume youre a dick-nosed troll? |
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Post by Trollock on Jan 3, 2019 6:56:02 GMT
You mean the CID where more data was submitted than any other single faction CID? Or the CID where more people called for nerfs to their own models than any other CID? Or the CID which had the least inflammatory, awful posts in the T&L section in 2018? Yeah, awful feedback. haha. arent u teh guy who was misplaying winter argeese in teh facebook forums? and yeah, all dat feedback ended up wid circle busted once again so i reckon it was pretty awful What is wrong with you? This is a forum fir discussing a table top game, not for insults. If you have nothing constructive to say, please be quiet. |
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Post by Bomma on Jan 3, 2019 9:29:53 GMT
I think something with Bones is a good pair.
Bradigus or one of the K2 builds getting about?
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