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Post by labyrinth on Dec 27, 2018 22:53:10 GMT
Hey guys, love all the Morghouls. Just wondering which is the most competitive? And what are some lists they run. Really keen to try a Morghoul3 list, but he seems... kinda janky? Dunno what PP was thinking taking away his WM.
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Post by granor on Dec 28, 2018 0:04:10 GMT
Morgoul2 is the best. He used to be played on DOA but now that we have Skorne arc nodes people are looking at him in other themes
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Post by skormedlover87 on Dec 28, 2018 3:01:06 GMT
Morghoul3 in MoW should be a strong counter to rising infantry and the ever popular Battle Engines. Kitties if you want or a couple units of Swordsmen, a Supreme and whatever other flavor you desire. Take 2 Statue Nodes either way.
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Dec 28, 2018 7:24:42 GMT
I agree morghoul2 is probably the most competitive. He brings accuracy/damage fixing and anti healing/tough with mortality. His feat can be used as a further mat/rat fixer it a time walking against infantry/battle engine heavy armies. He also always has a solid assassination plan in his back pocket if your down on attrition.
I'd say he's good in almost every tier but I personally like him in winds as an alternative to the standard rasheth list.
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Post by gordo on Dec 28, 2018 15:14:28 GMT
Morgul2 is Best, morgul1 is weakest.
I think the biggest issue for Morgul1 is that he just doesn't have a compelling reason to play him over our other casters. But he can still function well.
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Post by Charistoph on Dec 28, 2018 20:25:11 GMT
If there was one thing to fix about Morghoul1, what would it be?
I always thought it was strange that 2/3 of his Fury stats are 6, but #1 is 5. I don't know how much of an improvement that would make over a spell list alteration, but it is one of the larger inconsistencies I see.
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Post by psyllus on Dec 28, 2018 21:22:16 GMT
If there was one thing to fix about Morghoul1, what would it be? I always thought it was strange that 2/3 of his Fury stats are 6, but #1 is 5. I don't know how much of an improvement that would make over a spell list alteration, but it is one of the larger inconsistencies I see. Allowing Marketh in more themes (notably IWH) was a good start. The ability to Abuse a beast, let it do its thing, and then activate Morghoul1 to Maltreat it greatly improves his efficiency. Because of Maltreat, Morghoul1 is effectively a Fury 6 warlock, just with a control of 10". |
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Post by Charistoph on Dec 28, 2018 21:41:08 GMT
If there was one thing to fix about Morghoul1, what would it be? I always thought it was strange that 2/3 of his Fury stats are 6, but #1 is 5. I don't know how much of an improvement that would make over a spell list alteration, but it is one of the larger inconsistencies I see. Allowing Marketh in more themes (notably IWH) was a good start. The ability to Abuse a beast, let it do its thing, and then activate Morghoul1 to Maltreat it greatly improves his efficiency. Because of Maltreat, Morghoul1 is effectively a Fury 6 warlock, just with a control of 10". Technically, that wouldn't be fixing Morgoul, that would be fixing Marketh, and providing for other Warlocks as well. |
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Post by skormedlover87 on Dec 28, 2018 22:33:48 GMT
If there was one thing to fix about Morghoul1, what would it be? I always thought it was strange that 2/3 of his Fury stats are 6, but #1 is 5. I don't know how much of an improvement that would make over a spell list alteration, but it is one of the larger inconsistencies I see. Replace Torment with a non attack spell. Probably a battlegroup buff. And give him Elite Cadre: Beast Handlers: Herding. There, fixed. While you're at it give Hexy1 Torment instead of Sunder Spirit so he's got a bit of assassination threat back. |
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Dec 29, 2018 1:56:21 GMT
If there was one thing to fix about Morghoul1, what would it be? I always thought it was strange that 2/3 of his Fury stats are 6, but #1 is 5. I don't know how much of an improvement that would make over a spell list alteration, but it is one of the larger inconsistencies I see. Replace Torment with a non attack spell. Probably a battlegroup buff. And give him Elite Cadre: Beast Handlers: Herding. There, fixed. While you're at it give Hexy1 Torment instead of Sunder Spirit so he's got a bit of assassination threat back. I like torment though. It can prevent collosals from healing. |
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Post by skormedlover87 on Dec 29, 2018 15:31:32 GMT
I think you'd like something that was always useful, didn't blow his entire stack and put him within 10 of a Collosal though.
And like I said, you'll still have Torment, over there on Hexy1!
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Post by psyllus on Dec 30, 2018 23:36:04 GMT
Allowing Marketh in more themes (notably IWH) was a good start. The ability to Abuse a beast, let it do its thing, and then activate Morghoul1 to Maltreat it greatly improves his efficiency. Because of Maltreat, Morghoul1 is effectively a Fury 6 warlock, just with a control of 10". Technically, that wouldn't be fixing Morgoul, that would be fixing Marketh, and providing for other Warlocks as well. I disagree. Allowing a warlock to take the support they need is a way to fix that warlock. While the change did not specifically target Morghoul1, it nonetheless improves his playability. |
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Post by Charistoph on Dec 30, 2018 23:54:29 GMT
Technically, that wouldn't be fixing Morgoul, that would be fixing Marketh, and providing for other Warlocks as well. I disagree. Allowing a warlock to take the support they need is a way to fix that warlock. While the change did not specifically target Morghoul1, it nonetheless improves his playability. Which is why I said, "technically". Operationally and desirably, it does fix Morghoul1, though. |
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