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Post by mcdermott on Nov 20, 2018 3:06:31 GMT
I mean. If blaize and Cain3 hire them and are leading a group of primarily steelheads, why would they not be theme casters? Because they aren't in the Mercenary business like MacBain or Magnus are. Blaize is a warrior priest of Morrow operating out of Cygnar. Cain3 is more on the run or operating a backdoor. Part of a Theme is that the Warlocks and Warcasters need to match the Theme as well, which is why we don't see Cephalyx in The Resistance, Ashlynn in Kingmakers, or Magnus in Hammer Strike. The difference being that Kingmakers, hammerstrike, the resistance and cephalyx aren't exactly mercenaries as much as mini factions where the steelhead company are legitimate, will work for anyone mercenaries.
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Post by Charistoph on Nov 20, 2018 4:00:54 GMT
Because they aren't in the Mercenary business like MacBain or Magnus are. Blaize is a warrior priest of Morrow operating out of Cygnar. Cain3 is more on the run or operating a backdoor. Part of a Theme is that the Warlocks and Warcasters need to match the Theme as well, which is why we don't see Cephalyx in The Resistance, Ashlynn in Kingmakers, or Magnus in Hammer Strike. The difference being that Kingmakers, hammerstrike, the resistance and cephalyx aren't exactly mercenaries as much as mini factions where the steelhead company are legitimate, will work for anyone mercenaries. Umm... Hammer Strike is the Rhulic Mercenary group as much as the Steelhead is the human Mercenary Group. We really have no idea what the army of Rhul is like at this point. All we see are those sent out to work contracts.
The Steelheads won't work for anyone, as they won't work for the Convergence or Ios (I'll leave the Hordes factions out of this), though it is a close run thing. Though to continue that point, Blaize and Cain3 are not "will work for anyone" mercenaries. Those two are dedicated to only working for one nation when not operating as a Merc.
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Post by mcdermott on Nov 20, 2018 4:20:45 GMT
Caine can work with protectorate models in resistance, both of them are in irregulars a "generic" merc list.
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Post by Charistoph on Nov 20, 2018 5:47:53 GMT
Caine can work with protectorate models in resistance, both of them are in irregulars a "generic" merc list. "Work with" is not the same as "work for".
Nor is Irregulars a Theme in which you can use to work for another Faction.
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Post by mcdermott on Nov 20, 2018 6:11:26 GMT
Yeah its just wildly thematically inappropriate, same as having him in the same army as kayazy. Caine running a big ol honkin force of steelheads is way more thematically appropriate than either of those two things, which he can do in resistance or irregulars respectively.
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Post by shoe on Nov 20, 2018 6:23:01 GMT
stop derailing my thred plz ladz
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Post by Munindk on Nov 20, 2018 8:04:53 GMT
Or maybe Cryx kills Caine and Caine 4 becomes Partisan Cygnar/Cryx/Merc? Then Khador kills him and stuffs him in a warjack, so Caine 5 will be Partisan Cygnar/Cryx/Merc/Khador. The PoM saves him and Caine 6 will be Partisan Cygnar/Cryx/Merc/Khador/PoM. Then he gets captured by the skorne and mentally conditioned, add Partisan Skorne, but he breaks free and Caine 7 becomes a Lesser Warlock with a unicorn. After than he reincarnates as an Iosian warcaster and Caine 8 is not a Partisan Retribution warcaster too. This offends Everblight so he blights him Caine 9 = Partisan Cygnar/Cryx/Merc/Khador/PoM/Skorne/Minion solo/Retribution/Legion.
Caine's a slut.
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Post by Charistoph on Nov 20, 2018 16:20:00 GMT
Yeah its just wildly thematically inappropriate, same as having him in the same army as kayazy. Caine running a big ol honkin force of steelheads is way more thematically appropriate than either of those two things, which he can do in resistance or irregulars respectively. That's why it is important to recognize who is the doing the hiring. As I said earlier, Blaize and Cain3 would be more likely to be the one's hiring the group than working for someone who hired the group. Cain3 would not work for Feora or Kreoss any more than he would work for Vlad. He might do a job for Ashlynn who convinced a couple Protectorate units to help out. The Kayazy might be hired out to support Cain3's operation. But Cain3 actually being a Steelhead commander? Not without changing his card to lose his Partisan status, imo. The contracts he works for is just too restrictive for the Steelheads, and if he is seen as a Steelhead employee, they may lose Cygnar contracts.
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Post by sorokin on Nov 20, 2018 17:44:25 GMT
"Ideas for teh Steehead lore book when it cums"
- A threat by shoe - Derailed by everyone else - Enjoyed by me
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Post by Xintas on Nov 20, 2018 18:01:04 GMT
5/7 shoe impression right there.
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Post by sorokin on Nov 20, 2018 18:12:34 GMT
Well shoes always come in pairs.
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Post by shoe on Nov 21, 2018 6:09:38 GMT
5/7 shoe impression right there. no i do not use sexual innuendo. my posts ar strictly pg-13
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Post by Xintas on Nov 21, 2018 14:24:31 GMT
Your posts have more ass than donkey heaven. You never miss a chance for that particular creative spelling.
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Post by shoe on Nov 21, 2018 14:31:09 GMT
Your posts have more ass than donkey heaven. You never miss a chance for that particular creative spelling. taht is a pg13 word, sir
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Post by onijet01 on Nov 26, 2018 5:38:14 GMT
So onto the original topic at hand, ive thought about the steelhead heavy calvary for a while and wanted to ask if this change would be good. (Assuming changing only the following)
Trade in flank for a +1 mat and finisher. That allows them to engage diffrently than their current roll.
At 1inch reach and p+s11 melee i was also thinking of giving their melee weapon thresher (star attack) so it can be used on a charge.
Thier max standard charge remains at 12 inches but they can now strike multiple models at the end of the charge.
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