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Post by crow on Nov 14, 2018 17:47:56 GMT
So playing a game with mom when I came across the following; Mom was outside 3 inches from her Corallary, however one of her balls was within three. Reading the corallary’s accumulator rule it says when it starts its activation within 3 inches of a friendly warcaster model it gains the focus. Now after looking on the servitor’s card I noticed that they too have the warcaster key word. Now does that mean that they count as a warcaster model for the purposes of accumulator?
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Post by Korianneder on Nov 14, 2018 18:02:10 GMT
No. Part of the warcaster unit rules is that the warcaster is the model with the officer advantage and the only model that has warcaster rules. Servitors do not trigger the corollary.
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Post by crow on Nov 14, 2018 19:24:53 GMT
No. Part of the warcaster unit rules is that the warcaster is the model with the officer advantage and the only model that has warcaster rules. Servitors do not trigger the corollary. Then what are the grunts considered then? Cause from what I’ve read yes the warcaster is the only one that has the special rules of a warcaster, but it doesn’t specify the other models in the unit being non-warcaster models. Only that they do not possess the special abilities of the “warcaster”. Accumulator only specifies that the model be a warcaster model, but not that it actually have the warcaster special rules. Also, again, the balls do have warcaster as a key word on their card. Was there an infernal rule about this?
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Post by Korianneder on Nov 14, 2018 20:41:06 GMT
No. Part of the warcaster unit rules is that the warcaster is the model with the officer advantage and the only model that has warcaster rules. Servitors do not trigger the corollary. Then what are the grunts considered then? Cause from what I’ve read yes the warcaster is the only one that has the special rules of a warcaster, but it doesn’t specify the other models in the unit being non-warcaster models. Only that they do not possess the special abilities of the “warcaster”. Accumulator only specifies that the model be a warcaster model, but not that it actually have the warcaster special rules. Also, again, the balls do have warcaster as a key word on their card. Was there an infernal rule about this? From the warcaster unit rules: "The warcaster is the unit commander and activates as part of the unit. The warcaster is the model in the unit with the officer advantage..." Seems pretty clear to me. Servitors are not warcasters because they are not the commander or officer. Only the commander or officer is the warcaster. They would also be exponent servitors not grunts because they're character models. For reference here's a thread saying Exulon can move the non warcaster part of a warcaster unit because they are not warcasters. privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?264672-Exulon-Thexus-feat-Warcaster-Units&highlight=Warcaster+unit
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Post by crow on Nov 14, 2018 21:17:09 GMT
Then what are the grunts considered then? Cause from what I’ve read yes the warcaster is the only one that has the special rules of a warcaster, but it doesn’t specify the other models in the unit being non-warcaster models. Only that they do not possess the special abilities of the “warcaster”. Accumulator only specifies that the model be a warcaster model, but not that it actually have the warcaster special rules. Also, again, the balls do have warcaster as a key word on their card. Was there an infernal rule about this? From the warcaster unit rules: "The warcaster is the unit commander and activates as part of the unit. The warcaster is the model in the unit with the officer advantage..." Seems pretty clear to me. Servitors are not warcasters because they are not the commander or officer. Only the commander or officer is the warcaster. They would also be exponent servitors not grunts because they're character models. For reference here's a thread saying Exulon can move the non warcaster part of a warcaster unit because they are not warcasters. privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?264672-Exulon-Thexus-feat-Warcaster-Units&highlight=Warcaster+unit1. Then why do they posses the “warcaster” tag at the top of their card? 2. What are they then? Since they are not classified if memory serves as solos, but are not grunts either? 3. Why does the accumulator then work for say Maddox on a stormclad (yes she’s a storm knight, but only because it’s a key word on her card) when she’s clearly a caster?
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Post by Korianneder on Nov 14, 2018 21:43:01 GMT
From the warcaster unit rules: "The warcaster is the unit commander and activates as part of the unit. The warcaster is the model in the unit with the officer advantage..." Seems pretty clear to me. Servitors are not warcasters because they are not the commander or officer. Only the commander or officer is the warcaster. They would also be exponent servitors not grunts because they're character models. For reference here's a thread saying Exulon can move the non warcaster part of a warcaster unit because they are not warcasters. privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?264672-Exulon-Thexus-feat-Warcaster-Units&highlight=Warcaster+unit1. Then why do they posses the “warcaster” tag at the top of their card? 2. What are they then? Since they are not classified if memory serves as solos, but are not grunts either? 3. Why does the accumulator then work for say Maddox on a stormclad (yes she’s a storm knight, but only because it’s a key word on her card) when she’s clearly a caster? 1. They're part of a warcaster unit so that is referenced on the card. The rules for warcaster unit are explicit about what is an actual warcaster. 2. They are exponent servitors and are members of a unit. Not every member of a unit is a grunt. For instance clockwork angels have one leader and only two grunts. Black 13th have no grunts. They are members of a unit and re referred to as exponent servitors. 3. The difference between Maddox being a storm knight to trigger accumultor and exponent servitors is that the exponent servitors are not a warcaster. The rules for warcaster units are very specific. The top of the card for exponent servitors from the PP card database reads "Iron Mother Directrix & Exponent Servitors" Exponent servitors do not themselves have their own card. The card is a continuation of the warcaster unit's card. They do not have the warcaster tag.
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