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Post by jdeckert on Nov 13, 2018 22:46:17 GMT
I think 10 points, and remove spellward from the Greylord Escort would be a good place to start testing. See how bad it gets, then dial it back. I can get on-board with this. I hope they also look at outriders, ternions, koldun lords and add Ruin to wolves of winter while they are at it. Wolves of winter should be about more than just spamming doom reavers. That would be really nice. Even small adjustments now (given the 2-week window) and a more complete look at Wolves of Winter down the road would be fine. The theme could really open up our list-building if everything in it wasn't bad
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Post by The Snark Knight on Nov 13, 2018 22:58:49 GMT
Wolves of winter should be about more than just spamming doom reavers. Debatable. You may be on to something.
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Post by jisidro on Nov 13, 2018 23:08:45 GMT
They are as good as they are cheap. I'm guessing you don't mean they're not good and not cheap here?
Meant they have the stats they need ( Weapon Master, Good MAT, Berserk, SPD 6) if you put too many bells&Whistles on them they become expensive... and I think you need them as cheap as possible as they are meant to die in droves and then kill in droves.
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Post by Hashmal on Nov 13, 2018 23:10:18 GMT
Considering that they get minimal to no support from the faction, their abilities need to be pretty amazing to justify inclusion. And at a reasonable price too. Currently they have neither.
Edit: would absolutely love the rest of the theme to be CID'd. I'm just tempering expectations based on the time we have this cycle.
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Post by Ganso on Nov 13, 2018 23:23:15 GMT
If I get the two following things for this CID I'll be a happy camper.
1.- Worthwhile Doomies and CA 2.- Adjunct to be usable in all Themes
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Post by The Snark Knight on Nov 14, 2018 0:53:12 GMT
If I get the two following things for this CID I'll be a happy camper. 1.- Worthwhile Doomies and CA 2.- Adjunct to be usable in all Themes I'm just hoping Doom Reavers feel a little bit less like a mostly dead unit of Warmongers by the time they're finished.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Nov 14, 2018 2:56:37 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 14, 2018 3:36:33 GMT
Thanks! Sounds like a magical cold attack(mastery of cold), free upkeep(sustain a warcaster’s powers), increase control range or spell range(extend their reach), and counter offensive enemy spells (unravel incoming mystical assaults). So three warcaster buffs (two that are probably the same as Sylyss and one that is defensive rather than offensive), and a magic attack rather than a magic weapon. Sounds alright I guess, but not having a weapon means no charging and no free strikes? I guess that's the price he pays for having a more offensive ability than Sylyss.
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Post by P'tit Nico on Nov 14, 2018 8:00:19 GMT
Sounds like a magical cold attack(mastery of cold), free upkeep(sustain a warcaster’s powers), increase control range or spell range(extend their reach), and counter offensive enemy spells (unravel incoming mystical assaults). So three warcaster buffs (two that are probably the same as Sylyss and one that is defensive rather than offensive), and a magic attack rather than a magic weapon. Sounds alright I guess, but not having a weapon means no charging and no free strikes? I guess that's the price he pays for having a more offensive ability than Sylyss. The spoil at Lock&Load was: - Spell Barrier (like the Devout in PoM) => "unravel incoming mystical assaults" - Arcane Assist (like Sylys) => "sustain a warcaster’s powers" - Spiritual Conduit (like Sylys) => "extend their reach" Although, on Facebook, Will Pagani said that it had changed a bit since this spoil. I guess we'll see soon enough!
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Post by auraco on Nov 14, 2018 8:18:55 GMT
As spoiled it sounded very similar to just an in faction Sylys, I could understand them changing him to differentiate him more from Sylys.
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Post by welshhoppo on Nov 14, 2018 9:06:39 GMT
It's also not getting spell slave. Apparently Sorscha is a thing.
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Post by auraco on Nov 14, 2018 9:10:37 GMT
Because Khador can’t have nice things apparently I’m really curious to see which theme he’ll be allowed into, since at the moment he’s restriced to wolves of winter if nothing changes.
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Post by leander on Nov 14, 2018 9:15:57 GMT
if he's usable in all themes i might consider trying him in Irusk 2's L.O.S list. having a free solid ground and an extended range on the airburst could be nice if he's cheap on the point cost
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Post by P'tit Nico on Nov 14, 2018 9:32:55 GMT
if he's usable in all themes i might consider trying him in Irusk 2's L.O.S list. having a free solid ground and an extended range on the airburst could be nice if he's cheap on the point cost Spiritual Conduit doesn't increase Airburst's range as it is a RNG "CTRL" spell.
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Post by leander on Nov 14, 2018 9:55:18 GMT
if he's usable in all themes i might consider trying him in Irusk 2's L.O.S list. having a free solid ground and an extended range on the airburst could be nice if he's cheap on the point cost Spiritual Conduit doesn't increase Airburst's range as it is a RNG "CTRL" spell. yeah, brain fart on my part...good dream while it lasted though.
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