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Post by Blargaliscious on Sept 16, 2018 13:06:27 GMT
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faelin
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Post by faelin on Sept 16, 2018 22:10:54 GMT
Saw this a few days ago. Looks like its anti-spells that can shoot a spell improving laser. I really feel meh about it. I was hoping for more of a sniper solo for my infantry list or new Jack for Christmas.
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Post by Korianneder on Sept 17, 2018 4:29:56 GMT
Similarly from the Convergence facebook: TRADE POINTS: The Frustrum Locus is a valuable arcane support solo for any Convergence of Cyriss army. In addition to its numerous anti-magic defense abilities, its Phase Singularity cannon makes targets hit more susceptible to the magical attacks of its allies.
It's possible it's cannon isn't a spell improving laser, but a magical attack improving laser. Basically what Falk has in cygnar: +2 damage when the target suffers a magical damage roll. If that's the case it could be amazing with Orion.
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Post by crow on Sept 17, 2018 10:50:29 GMT
Similarly from the Convergence facebook: TRADE POINTS: The Frustrum Locus is a valuable arcane support solo for any Convergence of Cyriss army. In addition to its numerous anti-magic defense abilities, its Phase Singularity cannon makes targets hit more susceptible to the magical attacks of its allies. It's possible it's cannon isn't a spell improving laser, but a magical attack improving laser. Basically what Falk has in cygnar: +2 damage when the target suffers a magical damage roll. If that's the case it could be amazing with Orion. Actually it'd be good period as the Optifex Directive can hand out magic weapons. So you could use the solo to boost magic damage, then give Axiom magic damage via the Directive. Also angels would be a little more of a thing. A little more hitting power, and natural magic weapons means they might almost be worth having a unit or two kicking around. Personally, REALLY excited if it is... and now you have my hopes up >.<!!! |
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Post by bundeez on Sept 17, 2018 21:58:03 GMT
Wow! Weird there's no more buzz about this.. Can't find it on PP's site or anything... But yeah, doesn't sound particularly interesting to me. We really desperately need something to fix Clockwork Legions or a Character Jack or something. This doesn't sound like it shakes up the faction at all. If Korianneder is right though, Orion will be very happy! Any release date on the actual rules and/or the model? |
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Post by Korianneder on Sept 17, 2018 22:30:54 GMT
It was on Facebook and either Pagani or Hungerford said it would be in cid sometime soon. Most likely it's our christmas model.
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Post by crow on Sept 18, 2018 13:50:48 GMT
Wow! Weird there's no more buzz about this.. Can't find it on PP's site or anything... But yeah, doesn't sound particularly interesting to me. We really desperately need something to fix Clockwork Legions or a Character Jack or something. This doesn't sound like it shakes up the faction at all. If Korianneder is right though, Orion will be very happy! Any release date on the actual rules and/or the model? Possible recursion pow 18 infantry doesn’t excite you? I personally think it’ll do a lot for CL, as it will offer a much needed damage boost if it gets Falks ability. Granted I was hoping it’d be a unit rather than a solo (turn it into our artillery piece or w/e) but either way it’ll add some hitting power to solos. Imagine a pow 10 Armor piercing shot from perferatora?! It’ll be awesome!! Please also note that Falks ability is +2 to magical damage, so with our optifex directive we can make that almost ANY model we want. |
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Post by bundeez on Sept 18, 2018 14:51:11 GMT
How do you get pow18 infantry?
Sure one of the big weaknesses in CL (and CoC in general) is the weak hitting infantry. If this actually is +2 and is easy to apply, I can see Orion running infantry somewhat successful with this new solo.
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crow
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Post by crow on Sept 18, 2018 15:08:24 GMT
How do you get pow18 infantry? Sure one of the big weaknesses in CL (and CoC in general) is the weak hitting infantry. If this actually is +2 and is easy to apply, I can see Orion running infantry somewhat successful with this new solo. Lucant’s Positive charge spell, one Galvanizer, Reciprocator, shot from Locus, Optifex Directive. Activate Lucant, apply positive charge to Galvanizer, Shoot target with Locus, Run Galvanizer into place, Optifex gives out magic weapons to Reciprocators, Charge Reciprocators. |
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Post by bundeez on Sept 18, 2018 15:58:54 GMT
Pfff...  Rube Goldberg machine. Have you played Lucant in CL? It sounds more cute than good to me, but sure. Optifex Directive handing out magic weapons to infantry models doesn't seem optimal to me. Order of activation issues, models blocking and you only get 3.. certainly an option though! |
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Post by crow on Sept 18, 2018 16:39:59 GMT
Pfff... Rube Goldberg machine. Have you played Lucant in CL? It sounds more cute than good to me, but sure. Optifex Directive handing out magic weapons to infantry models doesn't seem optimal to me. Order of activation issues, models blocking and you only get 3.. certainly an option though! I’ve made crazier work reliably in the past in other factions, but this definitely wouldn’t be an every turn kinda deal, more just a few key turns, and I think the handing magic weapons is actually quite cost effective because your chance of using every ability on their card is now not just cute but quite possible. Add in that everything listed is basically what I’d take in a regular CL list and I think it’ll be able to catch a ton of people off guard. That being said too though my meta is pretty small and I have yet to hit any major tournaments... soooo |
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Post by danfromchicago on Sept 18, 2018 18:24:09 GMT
I think Lucant has a lot of potential in CL. Decel and Positive Charge are both excellent spells, and shield guarding Galvinizers are not terrible in the slightest. Advance Move helps mitigate one of the bigger problems Lucant can have which is, IMO, getting up the field to contest.
I think the solo will have a place. I don't think the damage buff will necessarily help infantry do additional damage, but it doesn't have to. Bumping the Jacks by +2 is probably good enough. P+S 21 Conservators are less than terrible
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Post by faelin on Sept 18, 2018 18:50:04 GMT
Everyone is jumping the gun and assuming the model is going to help magic weapons. I'd like to point out that while it's possible, there's no indication from the description text that it's the case. In fact, it specifically calls out warcasters as the one being helped. Which strongly makes me suspect its spells only.
While I would like a magic weapon improving later, I am hesitant to expect it
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Post by Korianneder on Sept 18, 2018 21:13:39 GMT
Everyone is jumping the gun and assuming the model is going to help magic weapons. I'd like to point out that while it's possible, there's no indication from the description text that it's the case. In fact, it specifically calls out warcasters as the one being helped. Which strongly makes me suspect its spells only. While I would like a magic weapon improving later, I am hesitant to expect it Read the trade points I posted up above. It specifically says magical attacks from allies. Trade points have usually been more accurate about model abilities than fluff blurbs in the past. |
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Post by faelin on Sept 18, 2018 22:12:11 GMT
That's what I get for trying to read while herding young kids. Didn't see the trade points.
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