tim
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by tim on Aug 5, 2018 16:17:50 GMT
Even after the Cid he seems to be not as good as vinny, cyrenia, and harby when it comes to running exemplars, anyone has a viable list for the Grand exemplar himself?
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Post by paradox on Aug 5, 2018 17:01:10 GMT
Even after the Cid he seems to be not as good as vinny, cyrenia, and harby when it comes to running exemplars, anyone has a viable list for the Grand exemplar himself? This was a point I raised several times during CID, to no avail. When you play him, he feels OK. Like, way better than before. But when you step back and look at the faction, you realize he’s still WAY back in the line to even be the best EI caster, let alone overall. Its kinda frustrating.
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 5, 2018 17:11:53 GMT
Even after the Cid he seems to be not as good as vinny, cyrenia, and harby when it comes to running exemplars, anyone has a viable list for the Grand exemplar himself? This was a point I raised several times during CID, to no avail. When you play him, he feels OK. Like, way better than before. But when you step back and look at the faction, you realize he’s still WAY back in the line to even be the best EI caster, let alone overall. Its kinda frustrating. Yeah they got a crapload if overwhelming feedback about how he was not working, what needed to be addressed, and why. As well as some pretty creative suggestions on how to change or address the issues and they just ignored it all.
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Post by mydnight on Aug 5, 2018 22:10:34 GMT
He's a hard counter to def skews, and he's better than his previous version, but still unlikely to make competitive pairings unless the meta changes. Vinny probably gets hosed by def skew, for example.
His key problem is he overlaps too much with cyrenia, harbinger and thyra, who are probably top tier infantry casters. What's worst is he will never see play outside of EI.
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Post by paradox on Aug 5, 2018 23:02:51 GMT
He's a hard counter to def skews, and he's better than his previous version, but still unlikely to make competitive pairings unless the meta changes. Vinny probably gets hosed by def skew, for example. His key problem is he overlaps too much with cyrenia, harbinger and thyra, who are probably top tier infantry casters. What's worst is he will never see play outside of EI. I dunno, is EI the best answer to DEF skews anyway?
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 5, 2018 23:22:10 GMT
He's a hard counter to def skews, and he's better than his previous version, but still unlikely to make competitive pairings unless the meta changes. Vinny probably gets hosed by def skew, for example. His key problem is he overlaps too much with cyrenia, harbinger and thyra, who are probably top tier infantry casters. What's worst is he will never see play outside of EI. I dunno, is EI the best answer to DEF skews anyway? Under Thyra with sevvy0 it is Mat 10/11 Everywhere!
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Post by paradox on Aug 6, 2018 0:42:00 GMT
I dunno, is EI the best answer to DEF skews anyway? Under Thyra with sevvy0 it is Mat 10/11 Everywhere! But youre still trying to melee deliver exemplars, which seems like the hard way. Menoth has never really struggled with DEF because of AoEs and Fire.
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 6, 2018 1:46:27 GMT
Under Thyra with sevvy0 it is Mat 10/11 Everywhere! But youre still trying to melee deliver exemplars, which seems like the hard way. Menoth has never really struggled with DEF because of AoEs and Fire. Yeah, the army dies quick, but I’m telling you what gets there kills the world. Mat 10 Pow 16 S&P Knights Exemplar...drool Anyway...sorry back to kreoss2
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thelat
Junior Strategist
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Post by thelat on Aug 6, 2018 3:30:24 GMT
Any thoughts on using him with a bunch of Templars and making use of Battle-Charged in Faithful Masses?
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tim
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by tim on Aug 6, 2018 4:24:49 GMT
Any thoughts on using him with a bunch of Templars and making use of Battle-Charged in Faithful Masses? my thoughts originally, but then you're wasting the tough and sacrosanct
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Post by mydnight on Aug 6, 2018 4:31:34 GMT
Any thoughts on using him with a bunch of Templars and making use of Battle-Charged in Faithful Masses? my thoughts originally, but then you're wasting the tough and sacrosanct What so great about templars? I'm assuming beat back doesn't work out of activation, coz if it did we might as well go purifier spam. If anything indictors and countercharge is good for throwing a spanner in enemy order of activations. Also sacrosanct is still a niche ability so wouldnt build a list for it.
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 6, 2018 10:35:28 GMT
Any thoughts on using him with a bunch of Templars and making use of Battle-Charged in Faithful Masses? Maybe run him with guardians to threat crit Piitch?
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Post by cgdeth on Aug 6, 2018 11:05:28 GMT
I'm going to a SR 2018 this weekend I'll be brining my k2 list and a sevy1 GunLine. I intend to play k2 in every match
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 6, 2018 11:58:34 GMT
I'm going to a SR 2018 this weekend I'll be brining my k2 list and a sevy1 GunLine. I intend to play k2 in every match Good Luck! Prove us grumblers all wrong
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twity
Junior Strategist
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Post by twity on Aug 6, 2018 13:49:38 GMT
There is some real power with tough no knockdown for everyone by Kreoss/Gravus.
Sacrosanct is also a serious problem for some armies, its also pretty unique. Hard to judge the power of an ability like that 1 to 1 with another caster.
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