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Post by mcdermott on Jul 6, 2018 1:20:44 GMT
I'm a little surprised at the lack of Engine of Destruction abuse tbqh.
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Post by Korianneder on Jul 6, 2018 6:02:28 GMT
I'm a little surprised at the lack of Engine of Destruction abuse tbqh. I'm not sure what you mean by abuse. Do you mean in list construction or on the table? I've gotten a few games in with her and for me her entire activation is cast engine of destruction and then as many jackhammers as I can safely cast. She sure as hell isn't going to be casting bombshell.
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Post by smartalek on Jul 6, 2018 16:43:17 GMT
At our game night I played into Denny2 (BI with Deathjack, and 5 slayers) and was able to assassinate her after she needed to use her melee weapon to toss a jack out of a zone. My feat that game generated 5 tokens, 2 went on the Conservator he was attacking and 3 went on the Axiom. This kept the Axiom very safe from 2 incoming slayers despite Curse of Shadows. Precision strike was key in this matchup, as I was able to scalpel out cortexes, arms (to stop combo strikes), and movement (to hit easier). bundeez : The Axiom performs very well. It can really bully the table due to drags, and the threat of jackhammering from 16" away. Sustained attack means that it can do work while being at mat5, freeing up the activation order. I also really like that it spawns servitors, both for shield guards and for their situational usefulness. Engine of Destruction isn't a thing to 'abuse', it's a tool to use when appropriate. So far I've been able to avoid using focus for it due to opponents having low def, or flaring them, or hitting them with the Mitigator's quake gun. I've used it three times in my three games, once to help clear out high def infantry, and twice on assassination runs bringing my Conservator to Mat 11. As soon as I see def14 beasts (like Angelii or warpwolves) you can be sure I'll be activating Locke early in the turn for that Engine.
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Post by javaman21011 on Jul 6, 2018 16:43:56 GMT
I'm a little surprised at the lack of Engine of Destruction abuse tbqh. I'm not sure what you mean by abuse. Do you mean in list construction or on the table? I've gotten a few games in with her and for me her entire activation is cast engine of destruction and then as many jackhammers as I can safely cast. She sure as hell isn't going to be casting bombshell. I dunno, I had a few good uses with Bombshell, seems legit.
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Post by Korianneder on Jul 6, 2018 22:42:30 GMT
Even against def 10/11 warjacks I'd rather cast engine of destruction than not cast it. Yea you can easily hit on 5's or 6's but I'd rather near guarantee hitting on not double 1's. Obviously it's less necessary if you land a flare on the target which is partly why I like bringing a cipher with her for sentry. Getting a free 4" aoe each turn for flare helps.
Bombshell is better than a lot of crappy nukes, but it's still not that good. Fishing for crits is unreliable and it costs almost half her focus. Outside of occasional instances like an incorporeal model that you can't get with a modulation jack, or heavily clumped infantry since it's only aoe 3, I'd rather have 3 jackhammers 90% of the time. What uses have you gotten out of it?
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Post by smartalek on Jul 6, 2018 23:45:00 GMT
Even against def 10/11 warjacks I'd rather cast engine of destruction than not cast it. Yea you can easily hit on 5's or 6's but I'd rather near guarantee hitting on not double 1's. Obviously it's less necessary if you land a flare on the target which is partly why I like bringing a cipher with her for sentry. Getting a free 4" aoe each turn for flare helps. Yeah, I've been able to flare pretty reliably with the servitors I bring and ones made off the axiom. Quake from the Mitigator has also been pretty good. I've been tempted to swap out my Mitigator and Inverter for Diffuser #2 and a Cipher... I'll probably try that out this weekend. So far needing 3's or 4's to hit has been fine (or not snakes on HoV Conservators) and I've been keeping the 2 EoD focus for camping, swapping Redline/Sentry, or just allocating it.
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Post by mcdermott on Jul 7, 2018 0:55:46 GMT
I'm a little surprised at the lack of Engine of Destruction abuse tbqh. I'm not sure what you mean by abuse. Do you mean in list construction or on the table? I've gotten a few games in with her and for me her entire activation is cast engine of destruction and then as many jackhammers as I can safely cast. She sure as hell isn't going to be casting bombshell. I meant about the complaint of mat5, though i guess they could have meant rat 5.
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