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Post by macdaddy on Jun 16, 2018 13:37:57 GMT
Oh wow that’s a big collection. Give me some time and I will try to break it down for you into themes and then we can do model purchases after that Do you have a flavor preference? It’s looking like guardians and faithfull masses are the themes you have the most models for
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Post by dickovdk on Jun 16, 2018 20:31:03 GMT
Actually falling in love with Cavs so Kreoss3 will be one. That means I need glavus and another unit vengers but that's how it is Also I feel K3 would like an arcNode. Maybe guardian but is really slow. And I just love the indictor so might have to buy that kit too.
2nd list don't know
But all your replies are really making me feel menoth don't have all that useless models as I am use to from trolls and Circle. That's REALLY cool
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demonic
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Post by demonic on Jun 17, 2018 3:30:42 GMT
you should be able to do everything with what you have. our Gargantuans aren't that good and our battle engine is really situational. if I'm going to put anything on the table...
1 more unit of Exemplar Knights and 2 unit attachments. 1 unit under mini-feat on the charge can 1 round a garg with relative ease, especially if you can get a single one killed the turn before and get 8 at pow 13. All of our attachments, character jacks, and most of our jack marshals are all pretty sweet so filling in those holes might work well. The new Exemplar Cinerator attachment especially, it will give them shield wall to finally make them worth their points. You're also missing a Vigilant
Vigilant + Devout = immortal caster till they can take out either or. Vigilant grants cover and girded (meaning that targeting either the vigilant or the devout doesn't work) while the devout negates spell casting against your caster, meaning high focus casters can't target you and blow you to bits either. It eventually comes down to them either swinging around to the back (where the vigilant's cover doesn't count) or using special units that can ignore cover. Def 18+ is just too much of a bastard to hit without it being a combined ranged attack, which will just get shield guarded to the Devout. Even if they do have an attack that can negate cover, they usually aren't that powerful and can be negated by spending focus; it's a real nasty combo.
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Post by macdaddy on Jun 17, 2018 13:18:10 GMT
Actually falling in love with Cavs so Kreoss3 will be one. That means I need glavus and another unit vengers but that's how it is Also I feel K3 would like an arcNode. Maybe guardian but is really slow. And I just love the indictor so might have to buy that kit too. 2nd list don't know But all your replies are really making me feel menoth don't have all that useless models as I am use to from trolls and Circle. That's REALLY cool Oh boy that’s expensive tastes heh. If your gonna run double Vengers, kreoss3 is the way to go! But vindictus can run them as well! 15” Threat baby! Guardians are great. Mat7 reach, and the node make it super versatile. You don’t really need it to be higher speed. I’ve been using one since mk3 dropped and they make for decent arc nodes even at Spd 4. If you get any heavy kit magnetize. It will save you money in the long run. I’m gonna disagree with demonic and say our collossals are good. Revelator is a mid range gun platform that ignores stealth (great!) the judicator (once it’s CiD rules become live) is a Melee Monster That has good infantry control guns. As far as the devout Vigilant is concerned all you really need is 1 of each (magnetize devout kit) Also, be aware the KD AoE’s like mantrap or scourge will ruin your caster bunker
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Post by gargs454 on Jun 18, 2018 16:32:22 GMT
But all your replies are really making me feel menoth don't have all that useless models as I am use to from trolls and Circle. That's REALLY cool Yeah I think the main "problem" that Protectorate has is that we really are pretty much right on the mark in terms of power. Not too much that is really crappy, but also nothing that's really over the top either. The result is that in my experience Protectorate tends to do reasonably "well" in tournament settings, but eventually runs into enough of the Boogeymen lists and can't quite pull out the wins. Its rare that other players will tech against Protectorate specifically for instance, but teching against the other big time lists also tends to cover Protectorate if you know what I mean.
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jun 18, 2018 19:06:15 GMT
But all your replies are really making me feel menoth don't have all that useless models as I am use to from trolls and Circle. That's REALLY cool Yeah I think the main "problem" that Protectorate has is that we really are pretty much right on the mark in terms of power. Not too much that is really crappy, but also nothing that's really over the top either. The result is that in my experience Protectorate tends to do reasonably "well" in tournament settings, but eventually runs into enough of the Boogeymen lists and can't quite pull out the wins. Its rare that other players will tech against Protectorate specifically for instance, but teching against the other big time lists also tends to cover Protectorate if you know what I mean. I agree here, but the big part that makes us competitive is the fact that these things that are all in the right spot, when our powers combined, we are Captain Planet... hold on, sorry about that. But seriously, we have all these really solid options that are good, not great, but when combined with each other, they shine. It only seems to take a small amount to get them to perform greater than their potential. One such example is Sevvy1 and soon to be Sevvy0. Eye of Menoth I feel is such an underappreciated ability, or your opponent's don't give it enough credit. I've got a Sevvy1 list I'm taking to Lock and Load in the FM theme that with such a small push, it puts out so much damage my opponents don't know what hit them (like having 2 Paladins vengeance move and swing while blind, taking out half a Road Hog). It's really crazy what we can achieve just by combining out powers together to get what we want.
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