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Post by redcathal on Mar 14, 2019 10:48:10 GMT
Sounds interesting, would bloodtrackers be better than the wolf riders though?
Bloodtrackers getting quick work because of affliction pump out more volume of attacks and also can do a number on battle engines/heavies and if they hyper aggressive forward...well you just have to position to make that a bad idea which is easy enough with Loki as they'll be even further into your lines where ravagers will just firetruck them up
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Post by Trollock on Mar 14, 2019 12:13:45 GMT
Sounds interesting, would bloodtrackers be better than the wolf riders though? Bloodtrackers getting quick work because of affliction pump out more volume of attacks and also can do a number on battle engines/heavies and if they hyper aggressive forward...well you just have to position to make that a bad idea which is easy enough with Loki as they'll be even further into your lines where ravagers will just firetruck them up Bloodtrackers (and a chef rather than a gallows grove) are definitely an idea. They do mess with heavier targets a bit (though perhaps not super much as they are only POW 11 here), and quick work does increase the attacks. Wolves threaten a whopping 7" further though, even though they have fewer and weaker ranged attacks. Both feel like options worth exploring for sure!
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Post by Trollock on Mar 18, 2019 9:23:43 GMT
So, i WAS going to focus on Baldur 2 for a bit now, BUT that damned Jaden got me inspired to try gunlining with Mohsar! Ill just post some lists here for me to check out later on... conflictchamber.com/?c8201b_-0p4w4QjF4H4H4Hg4g45gmV5e5e5fmY5fmYi7Circle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Bones of Orboros [Mohsar 1] Mohsar the Desertwalker [+27] - Megalith [20] - Woldwarden [14] - Woldwyrd [9] - Woldwyrd [9] - Woldwyrd [9] Blackclad Stoneshaper [0(3)] Blackclad Stoneshaper [0(3)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Gallows Grove [2] Sentry Stone & Mannikins [5] Sentry Stone & Mannikins [5] Shifting Stones [3] - Stone Keeper [2] Shifting Stones [3] - Stone Keeper [2] Celestial Fulcrum [19] (could have a 4th Wyrd by ditching lots of support. The stones with attachments seem "nice to have" though as Mohsar could move up to place pillars and then port back to the attachment) conflictchamber.com/?c8201b_-0j4wmDmJ4zmV545imUmMmMmF5qmGCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host [Mohsar 1] Mohsar the Desertwalker [+27] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Warpwolf Stalker [17] - Wild Argus [7] Gallows Grove [2] Tharn Ravager Shaman [0(4)] Tharn Ravager White Mane [0(5)] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Tharn Blood Pack (max) [15] Tharn Blood Pack (max) [15] Tharn Bloodtrackers (max) [15] - Nuala the Huntress [4] Tharn Wolf Riders (min) [11] (best keep away from basically anything in this list as the shooty assassination is insane. I cut back on LotF as i didnt want to spend the points on a cauldrun and went for "more stuff" instead. LotF IS really good though, and i might incorporate him by downgrading the stalker or something just for the "LotF-factor" that keeps opponents on their toes! ) For those who have missed it, the whole idea here is that IF the "dynamic update" changes to pillars of salt sticks, they can be used to contest, so you can play a full r-tard gunline that never has to come forward to contest, but just hangs back and shoots until there is nothing left. No idea which version will be most efficient...
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Post by Trollock on Mar 21, 2019 13:21:21 GMT
Played Baldur 2 DH yesterday twice against Abby 1 Oracles. First game i played really bad and Proteus ate all the Ravagers and every thing sucked. We re-racked An i played slightly less bad, and the list is BRUTAL. Ill write reports, but i have no idea when. Things are insane at work right now...
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Post by Trollock on Apr 5, 2019 11:32:04 GMT
Seems i forgot about writing reports last time... Not sure ill write one this week either, cause i only played one game which i messed up and was assassinated on turn 3...
Baldur has to be WAY careful all the frigging time cause he is real easy to kill. This time i wanted him to make one boosted charge attack against a bone swarm (against Barnabus 2, so it was effectively DEF 17) which i did just fine. I killed it too, but I totally forgot to cover Baldur properly so... I got a Raged snapjaw to the face while camping 1, and Barnabus spelled me a bit with feat and everything (though he rolled piss poor and only did 5 damage). The -3 DEF Baldur provided was super sweet, but i did not position correctly afterwards with the army. Also, i could have camped 3 and not cast Roots on Loki that turn, cause he cold have stayed safe...
Very poor play on my part for sure, but the main reason my opponent went for the assassination was not that it was high probability (though it was), but that he felt like he was not going to win any other way. The list is brutal just as i said before. It shuts down a lot of lists. In this case i had Loki and Ghetorix lock down the center and east zone and my Tharn owned the west zone and i could easily have won on scenario in the long run. Even Barnabus 2 who kills everything forever has to use basically his whole stack and his feat to kill one of my heavies, and if he does, i can probably kill him afterwards. Its pretty cool!
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Post by kjata on Apr 6, 2019 3:59:35 GMT
Yeah, baldur 2 in dev host is sweet. I played against a 16 gun bunny list and Ghetorix was basically unkillable. All my tharn died, but they got like 4 bunnies and Ghetorix, the stalker and megalith just lived forever.
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Post by jisidro on Apr 6, 2019 10:11:26 GMT
Share the list plz
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Post by Trollock on Apr 6, 2019 10:27:47 GMT
Right. It was posted much earlier, but i think i tweaked it anyway. Here is what i played. War Room Army Circle Orboros - no well Theme: The Devourer's Host 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Baldur the Stonesoul - WB: +30 - Tharn Blood Shaman - PC: 4 - Ghetorix - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19) - Loki - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Gorax Rager - PC: 7 Bloodweaver Night Witch - PC: 4 Tharn Ravager Shaman - PC: 4 Lord of the Feast - PC: 0 Tharn Ravagers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 15 - Tharn Ravager Chieftain - PC: 0 Tharn Ravagers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 15 - Tharn Ravager Chieftain - PC: 0 Tharn Wolf Riders - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18 THEME: The Devourer's Host --- GENERATED : 04/06/2019 12:26:47 BUILD ID : 2071.19-02-05
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Post by jisidro on Apr 6, 2019 12:53:24 GMT
Thx!
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Post by Trollock on May 6, 2019 5:45:49 GMT
Sorry i havent written battle reports in a while. I actually have to work at work, and at home i have been painting when i have free time . It has been Zombiecide rather than Warmachine unfortunately, but i have gotten back the urge to paint and i havent had that in years it feels like! I have played the B2 list above more lately and my meta finds it really oppressive. If you havent tried it, i suggest you do. It is supposedly super frustrating to play against and that is a plus in my book I also think that if there is a nerf to Iona coming, or even to Ravagers, i think this list does just fine still. Also, lots of the things that work well against tharn do nothing against your DEF 16 ARM 22 battle group. Im gonna try and play some games where i screen the infantry with the battle group rather than the other way around. I think that might open up another dimension of awful
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Post by kjata on May 7, 2019 6:15:24 GMT
I tried something similar, I cut loki for a stalker and I cut the wolf riders for blood pack (I think, I played it about when you posted it). I played like 3 or 4 games with the list and I'm pretty sure nobody killed Ghetorix.
I was thinking about trying to fit wrong eye in. Since the point of the list was "take a bunch of shit that is pretty good on its own and just have Ghetorix be impossible to kill" I might as well go all in on that.
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Post by Trollock on May 28, 2019 20:06:01 GMT
I havent played much lately. Basically my two regular opponents have had some life changes recently, and so have i, so our regular "MondayMachine" that has been going on for years have not happened. Bit sad, but we will get back to it eventually im sure! Anyway, i have been thinking a bit more on Baldur 2. Id like to try him in BoO a bit too, just to have a bench mark for him. The list will work very differently for sure, but i think it will help me learn his kit more as he can focus on other aspects of it with that list. Any one has a BoO list they want to share? Also, ive been thinking about a DH version without Loki. On the surface it seems very good, as it allows me to play Feral + Ghetorix for a BG that is ALMOST as durable, and much cheaper as i can ditch the Gorax who does nothing usually. That allows me to play the pot (who can simulate the drag of Loki a bit) and some more options. Ill have to try that out, but im not certain it works the same at all... The list hits much harder than mine, and has a better LotF, but im not sure it is as back breaking for the opponent as the drag from Loki allowed me to do work with both beasts against a heavy while still standing far enough back to allow Baldur to be safe. conflictchamber.com/?c8201b_-0j5CmDmKmRmVmI54mUmUjXmS4_mj5wmj5wCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host [Baldur 2] Baldur the Stonesoul [+30] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Ghetorix [19] - Tharn Blood Shaman [4] Gallows Grove [2] Lord of the Feast [0(6)] Tharn Ravager Shaman [4] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Boil Master & Spirit Cauldron [5] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Bloodweavers [8] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5]
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Post by Trollock on Jul 14, 2019 20:18:24 GMT
Sooo much dojoing to be done! and if there is actually some polishing of our secret masters/wild hunt models? The sky is the limit! Ive been main lining DH with lots of different casters for... a long time now. I still think basically all of them has merit, even the Kayas! The Remix will only make that even better. I have been painting several things lately. Both a well and a bird are finished. Here is a little teaser. For the full pics, check out my painting log below! lormahordes.freeforums.net/thread/7929/circle-trollockos
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Post by goodk4t on May 8, 2020 21:13:32 GMT
Hello,
Recently jumped the circle Dev Host Train and fall in love with Baldur 1. I'm still struggling to find the right BG for him. Ghetorix is pretty much set. I'm not a fan of the Satyrs though. I saw you had some great success with Loki on baldur 2, what you think, how he will work with Baldur1? Pow 19 Hooks seem like a nice addition to the army, and a shield guard more is never wrong. Plus the model is very sweet looking
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Post by Trollock on May 17, 2020 10:24:37 GMT
Hello, Recently jumped the circle Dev Host Train and fall in love with Baldur 1. I'm still struggling to find the right BG for him. Ghetorix is pretty much set. I'm not a fan of the Satyrs though. I saw you had some great success with Loki on baldur 2, what you think, how he will work with Baldur1? Pow 19 Hooks seem like a nice addition to the army, and a shield guard more is never wrong. Plus the model is very sweet looking If you have ghetorix in the list, he wont get the upkeep for sure. Its better on ghetorix and the tharn ravagers. Loki is a bad beast tbh. With baldur 2 he works as he gets the +3 arm, but in general, most things are better than him.
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