List advice Haley3/Siege2

Lorian
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List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 23, 2018 12:32:58 GMT via mobile

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Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 12:32:58 GMT

I am attending a small friendly tournament in may and wanted to try my two favorite casters. Siege2 is for arm cracking, anti shooting. Haley3 should be def spam and deal with dude spam.

Beforehand: i sadly only own some more not already included trencher models: Trencher UA and the dog.
What do you think about Alexia2 in Sieges list? I think she could shine using the smokescreen to keep her save.

So for the Lists:

War Room Army

Cygnar - Haley3Theme

Theme: Sons of the Tempest
3 / 3 Free Cards 49 / 50 Army

Major Prime Victoria Haley - WJ: +25
- Haley Past
- Haley Future
- Squire - PC: 0
- Thorn - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Ironclad - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)

Lieutenant Bastian Falk - PC: 0
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 5
Arcane Tempest Rifleman - PC: 4
Arcane Tempest Rifleman - PC: 4
Gorman Di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist - PC: 4
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 0

Black 13th Strike Force - Lynch, Ryan, & Watts: 10
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages - Leader & 5 Grunts: 11
Tempest Blazers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 11

THEME: Sons of the Tempest
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War Room Army

Cygnar - Siege2 theme

Theme: Gravediggers
1 / 1 Free Cards 49 / 50 Army

Colonel Markus 'Siege' Brisbane - WJ: +28
- Rocket Turret
- Ironclad - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)
- Avenger - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16)

Captain Maxwell Finn - PC: 0
Alexia, Mistress of the Witchfire - PC: 7
- Thrall Warrior

Trencher Infantry - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
Trencher Express Team - Spotter & Gunner: 5
Horgenhold Forge Guard - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
- Captain Jonas Murdoch - PC: 4

THEME: Gravediggers
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36cygnar24guy36 The Sky Fell Posts: 2,337	List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 23, 2018 12:48:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 23, 2018 12:48:38 GMT If Siege 2 is to be the armour cracking list then Ragman is pretty much mandatory imho

Lorian Demo Gamer Posts: 17	List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 23, 2018 15:59:29 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 15:59:29 GMT True. So Alexia is out and Ragman and Trencher UA are in. Or do you have something better in mind? How about Haley3? Never played SoT before. But i dont want to run GD twice.

Aegis Global Moderator Global Mod Posts: 1,047	List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 23, 2018 16:13:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Aegis on Apr 23, 2018 16:13:40 GMT H3 usually is the best GD caster we have. Siege2 could play Storm Division quite good, if you are interested in a swap. What do you think H3 offers to Sons of Tempest?
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Lorian
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List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 23, 2018 21:24:34 GMT via mobile

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Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 21:24:34 GMT

Def 16 all over the board is a thing. I love Haley3 in GD. Its very clock consuming but always very good. Do you think Def 16 is not enough to stay alive long enough to win on senario or attrition?
Thank you for your thoughts. I cant play often, which limits my expirience with new built lists.

Siege gives SD elevation. But is this sufficient? Or do you have a different thing in mind?

Juris
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List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 24, 2018 17:45:16 GMT

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Post by Juris on Apr 24, 2018 17:45:16 GMT

Apr 23, 2018 21:24:34 GMT Lorian said:

Def 16 all over the board is a thing. I love Haley3 in GD. Its very clock consuming but always very good. Do you think Def 16 is not enough to stay alive long enough to win on senario or attrition?
Thank you for your thoughts. I cant play often, which limits my expirience with new built lists.

Siege gives SD elevation. But is this sufficient? Or do you have a different thing in mind?

Siege can also make the small and medium based storm knights dig in, bringing their defense against ranged/magic up to 16 (18 if also on a hill).

That said, my recommendation is that you stick with Siege2 in Gravediggers. Bring Ragman, as already noted. But without Trench Busters, you're going to be sad. Is it possible for you to trade the Forgeguard for a unit of Commandos with CA?

My recommendation, if you have or can get the models, for a 50 point armor cracking Siege2 list is to try this:

Theme: Gravediggers

2 / 2 Free Cards 49 / 50 Army

Colonel Markus 'Siege' Brisbane - WJ: +28

- Rocket Turret

- Triumph - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18)

- Ironclad - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10)

Captain Maxwell Finn - PC: 0

Trench Buster - PC: 0

Trench Buster - PC: 5

Ragman - PC: 4

Trencher Infantry - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10

- Trencher Infantry Officer & Sniper - PC: 5
Trencher Commandos - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15

- Trencher Commando Officer - PC: 4

Trencher Express Team - Spotter & Gunner: 5

THEME: Gravediggers

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Lorian
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List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 29, 2018 11:03:03 GMT via mobile

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Post by Lorian on Apr 29, 2018 11:03:03 GMT

Thank you for your advice!

Sadly i cant get my hands on some Trench Busters. (Will order some of them for the future. Do you always bring two or is one enough? I dont want to order a model that mostly sits on the shelf.

) But i could probably borrow some commandos. But what do they bring for armor cracking, aside from delivering a flanking option?

Do you guys have some advice on my SoT-List?

I know, there will be Cygnar, Khador,Trolls, Menoth and Retribution in the lineup. If i get more information i will complete the list.

Juris
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List advice Haley3/Siege2 Apr 30, 2018 20:53:43 GMT

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Post by Juris on Apr 30, 2018 20:53:43 GMT

Apr 29, 2018 11:03:03 GMT Lorian said:

Thank you for your advice!

Sadly i cant get my hands on some Trench Busters. (Will order some of them for the future. Do you always bring two or is one enough? I dont want to order a model that mostly sits on the shelf.

) But i could probably borrow some commandos. But what do they bring for armor cracking, aside from delivering a flanking option?

Do you guys have some advice on my SoT-List?

I know, there will be Cygnar, Khador,Trolls, Menoth and Retribution in the lineup. If i get more information i will complete the list.

I always play two in Gravediggers lists. For Commandos, specifically regarding their armor cracking abilities, they have Anatomical Precision, so they do one auto-point of damage to living models regardless of armor/rolls. They also have Pathfinder, which is means that it's easier to deliver them. When combined with Kiss of Lyliss and/or Death Field, they take Fury decently and go up to POW12, up to a max (when all of the stars align from mini-feat, Deathfield, and Kiss of Lyliss) of P&S 18.

List advice Haley3/Siege2

Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 12:32:58 GMT

Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 23, 2018 12:48:38 GMT

Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 15:59:29 GMT

Post by Aegis on Apr 23, 2018 16:13:40 GMT

Post by Lorian on Apr 23, 2018 21:24:34 GMT

Post by Juris on Apr 24, 2018 17:45:16 GMT

Post by Lorian on Apr 29, 2018 11:03:03 GMT

Post by Juris on Apr 30, 2018 20:53:43 GMT