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Post by chevelle on Apr 19, 2018 10:06:46 GMT
Now that Skarre3 is finally available, what are you planning on running withe her and what will your pairing look like ?
My first thought was taking her in Dark Host, something like this:
Skarre3 (+27) - Dark Host - Descecrator 14 - Stalker 8 - Stalker 8 Wraith Engine 15 Tartarus 0 Darragh Wrathe 9 Soul Trapper 1 Bane Knights max 15 Bane Warrior max 16 - Bane Warrior UA 0 Bane Warrior max 16 - Bane Warrior UA 0
Not sure about the two Stalkers though. Could be a second Descecrator and a Machine Wraith.
With the Wraith Engine, Darragh, Dash and Desceleration Bane Knights threat 12" and go up to ARM 22 against shooting. Bane Warriors threat 11" and become ARM 19 against shooting. Bane Knights can get up to P+S 18, when charging, Bane Warriors become P+S 15 weapon masters (Dark Shroud and Draconic Blessing).
Any other ideas ?
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Post by tiberius on Apr 19, 2018 12:15:01 GMT
I think she will be really fun to run in slaughter fleet raiders. Something like this:
Skarre, Admiral of the Black Fleet - Satyxis Blood Preistess - Kraken - Leviathan General Gerlack Slaughterborn Misery Cage Black Ogrun Ironmongers Bloodgorgers + Jassicka Trollkin Marauders Devil Shadows Mutineers
It looks like a really fun attrition army with a strong scenario presence and a lot of boostable guns.
Skarre will be pretty immune to shooting from sucker! and with all the tough models around her, she should never really run out of sucker targets. With reinforcements she can keep pumping suckers back into the ranks and with the iron mongers, they can repair damage on her or the kraken pretty easily. The list has a lot of body blocking meat, anti-infantry and can get some armor cracking if it needs it.
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Post by tiberius on Apr 19, 2018 13:06:14 GMT
I would probably pair her with a dark host list like Terminus + all the banes or maybe one of the deneghras or Skarre 1.
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Post by boozy on Apr 19, 2018 20:02:08 GMT
I think she will be really fun to run in slaughter fleet raiders. Something like this: Skarre, Admiral of the Black Fleet - Satyxis Blood Preistess - Kraken - Leviathan General Gerlack Slaughterborn Misery Cage Black Ogrun Ironmongers Bloodgorgers + Jassicka Trollkin Marauders Devil Shadows Mutineers It looks like a really fun attrition army with a strong scenario presence and a lot of boostable guns. Skarre will be pretty immune to shooting from sucker! and with all the tough models around her, she should never really run out of sucker targets. With reinforcements she can keep pumping suckers back into the ranks and with the iron mongers, they can repair damage on her or the kraken pretty easily. The list has a lot of body blocking meat, anti-infantry and can get some armor cracking if it needs it. I like her there a lot too, and have a similar build. I like Khardybis too though. Chain Strike is amazing with Gang Fighter, and super easy to trigger with all those bodies.
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Post by tiberius on Apr 20, 2018 11:56:29 GMT
Yeah, Kharybdis paired with another ranged warjack or a pair of stalkers under Aiakos replacing the Kraken in my list would be pretty good too. The kraken brings a fair amount of fire power and hard hitting power, which is why I like him, but too many eggs in one basket is also a thing.
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Post by boozy on Apr 20, 2018 15:13:13 GMT
Personally, I included both the Kraken and Kharydbis, to get the most out of Guided Fire. Between the two and Skarre herself, that's a lot of boosted attack rolls on guns, and 4" melee threat ranges for the 'jacks. The biggest thing I dislike about the Kraken is having two huge bases, but I want to get the most out of the spell, and the Kraken brings much needed hard ARM crack power, since she lacks a debuff.
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Post by gedditoffme on Apr 20, 2018 21:14:01 GMT
To OP, I am also working on a Dark Host list. Double desecrator to make occasional use of guided fire, though they don't need it too often (2 focus gives boost hit and 1 boost dmg anyway). This leaves more focus for camping, dash, decal which I think are the main strengths of the list.
I tried something similar to you, but even with Darragh seemed to get out threated and lost most of my infantry in turn 2 - 3 against other infantry lists (making heavy use of electroleaps admittedly). I often got a good assassination attempt in (saved my feat, got dash, draconic blessing and usually took a free strike to get to enemy caster with a full focus stack and 7 initials), but not exactly reassured that my army kept crumbling.
I've reworked to get Bane riders in - act as another range extension and some more durability, as well as cephalyx overlords to give a scoring unit, some more anti infantry strength, and something to make use of reinforcements.
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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Dark Host
(Skarre 3) Skarre, Admiral of the Black Fleet [+27] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] Bane Lord Tartarus [0(6)] Machine Wraith [2] Necrotech [2] Soul Trapper [1] Bane Riders (max) [20] Bane Warriors (min) [10] - Bane Warrior Officer & Standard [0(5)] Bane Warriors (max) [16] - Bane Warrior Officer & Standard [0(5)] Cephalyx Overlords [8] Wraith Engine [15]
I am trying a pair with denny2 Black Industries with 4 elite heavies and 2 overlord units- both ask a few incorporeal questions (which might force my opponent's list selection), but Denny2 is an obvious answer to anti infantry tech or enemy infantry swarms.
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