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Post by moarbarmu on Apr 5, 2018 21:38:31 GMT
This I do not understand. Almost every non-Mercenary theme force that can take Mercenaries (most of them) can take Partisans. However, unless I am reading the ruels fo r the Llaeleses Resistance wrong, the reverse is not true. Non-Mercenary theem forces can take Mercenaries that are Partisan to them but the Lllaelese Resistance cannot take non-Merc units that are Partisans ie Mercenary units inherently. It can take any Cygnar, Crucibile Guard, or Protectorate units, up to two of them, as long as they are from the same faction and they count as Llaelese mercenary models, but they cannot take Cygnar, Crucible guard, or Protectorate partisans that are inherently Mercenary models. This makes no sense because in the fluff, at least one of these disallwoed Partisan units, Precursor Knights, were strongly associated with the Resistance in lLael and Cygnar. it seems unfair to limit the untis oyu take ot non-Partisans when most Non-Mercenary armies can take Partisans.
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Post by shoe on Apr 5, 2018 21:56:20 GMT
we got dem boys kicked out of the resistance back in the cid
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Post by crow on Apr 6, 2018 3:10:23 GMT
They were part of the La Resistance theme in the beginning but as Shoe says they got kicked early on. My complaint (though I can't remember if I actually voiced it or not) was that if they were included in La Resistance... would that be the only theme they would get? Since the Theme gave no benefits to the Knights, or Constance, or any of the Partisan, this would have left them in a mostly un-usable state. As such I think it was a good call, as now in the future, there is a chance they could be given a proper theme for specific Morrow models.
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Post by shoe on Apr 6, 2018 5:15:41 GMT
teh tomorrowans got the boot to make way for the manites. simple as dat
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Post by moarbarmu on Apr 6, 2018 5:24:57 GMT
It does not fit the fluff. Also, not including Partisans makes no sense. So I can pick any Cygnaran unit except them. It makes no sense. Well right now the Precursor Knights cannot be used to much effect anyway so you relegated them to obscurity by objecting ot them beign in theme. Why partisan units should not be in theme is something that I do not understand.
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Post by borderprince on Apr 6, 2018 10:06:49 GMT
...This makes no sense because in the fluff, at least one of these disallwoed Partisan units, Precursor Knights, were strongly associated with the Resistance in lLael and Cygnar. Were they? I know they were in the Mk2 Highborne contract, but when has the background actually featured Precursors as part of the Resistance, and not as Cygnaran forces working with the Resistance? I can't think of a fiction piece or background text which refers to them as present, for example, but will happily be corrected. Unlike Steelheads, which appear with the Resistance all the time. Grumble, grumble.
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Post by moarbarmu on Apr 7, 2018 22:43:15 GMT
All Cygnar non-character units are allowed except for the Precursor Knights. This seems unfair.
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Post by fallenexile on Apr 8, 2018 6:07:52 GMT
All Cygnar non-character units are allowed except for the Precursor Knights. This seems unfair. ... Why do you want them so badly?
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Post by crow on Apr 8, 2018 6:16:04 GMT
All Cygnar non-character units are allowed except for the Precursor Knights. This seems unfair. ... Why do you want them so badly? Cause they're a cool looking unit? and Paladins are an AWESOME fantasy class? And so a cool looking paladin unit that sees no play makes some people sad pandas?
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Post by fallenexile on Apr 8, 2018 6:19:55 GMT
... Why do you want them so badly? Cause they're a cool looking unit? and Paladins are an AWESOME fantasy class? And so a cool looking paladin unit that sees no play makes some people sad pandas? Play Irregulars? Or any Cygnar theme that can take them? If Steelheads can't go in Llaelese Resistance, no other non-character merc unit should be.
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Post by onijet01 on Apr 8, 2018 11:39:17 GMT
Besides the abouve they are almost worthless without vonstanve to back them up. Ashlynn may be okay to give them a point of accuracy but no other benifite outside theme.
Constance at least can up their atmor on feat and allow them to spend focus to boost
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Post by crow on Apr 8, 2018 15:40:45 GMT
Besides the abouve they are almost worthless without vonstanve to back them up. Ashlynn may be okay to give them a point of accuracy but no other benifite outside theme. Constance at least can up their atmor on feat and allow them to spend focus to boost I do also like the +2 movement on charges! that's an important one!
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Post by Xintas on Apr 9, 2018 13:38:32 GMT
I feel like it was mostly because they didn't want to have to explain why the Errants and the Precursor Knights were on the field at the same time. It creates some serious wonkiness, though I feel there was a better solution.
Steelheads not being allowed still confuses and infuriates me.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Apr 10, 2018 8:48:21 GMT
I feel like it was mostly because they didn't want to have to explain why the Errants and the Precursor Knights were on the field at the same time. Hey, if in the grimdarkness of 40K we can have surprising alliances... 163734_md-Blood Angels Brofist Fist Bump Fi....jpg (58.58 KB)
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 10, 2018 8:52:24 GMT
I feel like it was mostly because they didn't want to have to explain why the Errants and the Precursor Knights were on the field at the same time. It creates some serious wonkiness, though I feel there was a better solution. Steelheads not being allowed still confuses and infuriates me. It is funny and sad that Sergeant Nic can be taken in Resistance, but he has none of his Steelhead friends with him.
I think they felt that Steelheads already had a place in Kingmaker and Irregulars, and that adding them to resistance would make it a bit too crowded.
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