Choco
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Post by Choco on Apr 4, 2018 19:25:12 GMT
Of course we need to have this thread, because why not?
Since we did not have a caster from the beginning, we are left out at the moment on getting 0 level journeyman warcaster. For those of you sleeping under a rock, PP dropped into the CID today 4 junior casters that are 0 level casters of already established casters. They picked one from each of the big 4 that started the game 15 years ago: Sevvy, Denny, Sorscha, Caine.
This is the obligatory, "What do we want to see us get post" that everyone else will be asking anyway.
The obvious option is Magnus. He's the one that's been in the fluff the most and around the longest (along with Gorten). I'm not even going to speculate what he could have, but I will say that if we do get one, I want PP to really go off the wall and pick someone else. Gorten is my personal choice, I have loved him since the beginning. The other logical choice is Ashlynn and I think she would fit the idea the best considering the current fluff and since she is getting an epic version at some point soon(ish).
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Post by fallenexile on Apr 4, 2018 20:16:55 GMT
Shae0? Though pirates already have a TON of solos, they don't have a lesser. Other than the three already mentioned, Shae would be the only other one that would make any sense.
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 4, 2018 20:22:51 GMT
For the game, Gorten is needed more than Magnus or Shae. There is no Rhulic journeyman warcaster at all. That is a serious miss of an opportunity.
However, I do believe Magnus was around before Gorten, story-wise at any rate, so we'll see.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Apr 4, 2018 22:29:12 GMT
magnus zero would be a cygnar warcaster and i do not want that
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 4, 2018 22:31:27 GMT
magnus zero would be a cygnar warcaster and i do not want that And we may see Ashlynn or MacBain, too. The Battlebox Warcasters were not all chosen in this case. But yeah, another partisan: Cygnar model is not necessarily something that is needed floating around if Magnus0 was still allowed in Mercs. |
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Post by Soul Samurai on Apr 5, 2018 4:09:14 GMT
Crosse 0. He would be a regular solo with no focus or battlegroup controller rules.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Apr 5, 2018 6:06:39 GMT
magnus zero would be a cygnar warcaster and i do not want that And we may see Ashlynn or MacBain, too. The Battlebox Warcasters were not all chosen in this case. But yeah, another partisan: Cygnar model is not necessarily something that is needed floating around if Magnus0 was still allowed in Mercs. nono partisan. magus is like 60. he was a full on cygnar caster when caine was a teen. only went merc after the first civil war |
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 5, 2018 6:42:17 GMT
And we may see Ashlynn or MacBain, too. The Battlebox Warcasters were not all chosen in this case. But yeah, another partisan: Cygnar model is not necessarily something that is needed floating around if Magnus0 was still allowed in Mercs. nono partisan. magus is like 60. he was a full on cygnar caster when caine was a teen. only went merc after the first civil war That doesn't mean he hadn't developed contacts in the mercenary community before the first civil war. He seemed to survive pretty well and quickly there afterwards. But that was why I stated, "if he was still allowed in Mercs". If he wasn't allowed in Mercs, there would be no reason for the Partisan rule, now would he? |
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Fang
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Post by Fang on Apr 5, 2018 7:32:40 GMT
I hope its Gorten, but wasn't he a miner before he was a merc? Gorten0, bunnies on a stick  |
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crow
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Post by crow on Apr 5, 2018 10:56:55 GMT
Personally I feel like we'd get Magnus0. I know it wouldn't make much sense as far as lore goes, but from what I can tell, pretty much all the "0" casters have at least three incarnations, tend to be (with some exceptions) battle box casters or iconic casters from their respective factions, and from what I know they tend to have a decent amount of fluff about them. Magnus is the closest thing we have to a third incarnation (we only have two epics, and he's the only one with both versions in mercs), and He's always been a battle box caster, as well as one of the most iconic merc casters as well as one with a lot of fluff and story.
I don't think a dwarf one is likely. With a dwarf journeyman (unless they made it somehow exclusive to mercs) other factions could start getting access to dwarf jacks, I'm thinking more the gun bunnies. Imagine if you will a cygnar list that now also has a small detachment of bunnies running around? I may be thinking over the top, but I seem to remember talking about a "dwarf journeyman" a while back and it was pretty obvious that part of the reason dwarf jacks were so good, was because only mercs could take them, and only if you brought a dwarf caster, and it was determined that it would be bad otherwise.
That being said, IF it DID happen... I think Ossrum would be a likely candidate. I know he's not as old as Gorten, but his title might make it easier to adjust him to 0 level. Like, Captain Ossrum, or Private Ossrum. And he is a pretty Iconic Dwarf, along with Gorten... so either would be cool. Then again you could even make a case for Durgen, something like "Durgen the Sane" which would represent his time before banishment and all the crazy.
Ashlyn would be the only other one up for the part otherwise, and only if they somehow released her Epic version first. This would put her relatively in the same spot as Magnus. She's Iconic enough, has enough fluff, and would be tied for closest to a third incarnation. Though what you would call her, I have no idea.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Apr 5, 2018 11:45:14 GMT
For the game, Gorten is needed more than Magnus or Shae. There is no Rhulic journeyman warcaster at all. That is a serious miss of an opportunity. However, I do believe Magnus was around before Gorten, story-wise at any rate, so we'll see. Magnus and Gorten were both released in Escalation I'm pretty sure, I bought both battle boxes on the same day way back then. So they could go either way. Not sure how they would do Gorten without him looking utterly pathetic though. Focus3? Gee, look at you go little duder. |
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Fang
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Post by Fang on Apr 5, 2018 13:35:29 GMT
Personally I feel like we'd get Magnus0. I know it wouldn't make much sense as far as lore goes, but from what I can tell, pretty much all the "0" casters have at least three incarnations, tend to be (with some exceptions) battle box casters or iconic casters from their respective factions, and from what I know they tend to have a decent amount of fluff about them. Magnus is the closest thing we have to a third incarnation (we only have two epics, and he's the only one with both versions in mercs), and He's always been a battle box caster, as well as one of the most iconic merc casters as well as one with a lot of fluff and story. I don't think a dwarf one is likely. With a dwarf journeyman (unless they made it somehow exclusive to mercs) other factions could start getting access to dwarf jacks, I'm thinking more the gun bunnies. Imagine if you will a cygnar list that now also has a small detachment of bunnies running around? I may be thinking over the top, but I seem to remember talking about a "dwarf journeyman" a while back and it was pretty obvious that part of the reason dwarf jacks were so good, was because only mercs could take them, and only if you brought a dwarf caster, and it was determined that it would be bad otherwise. That being said, IF it DID happen... I think Ossrum would be a likely candidate. I know he's not as old as Gorten, but his title might make it easier to adjust him to 0 level. Like, Captain Ossrum, or Private Ossrum. And he is a pretty Iconic Dwarf, along with Gorten... so either would be cool. Then again you could even make a case for Durgen, something like "Durgen the Sane" which would represent his time before banishment and all the crazy. Ashlyn would be the only other one up for the part otherwise, and only if they somehow released her Epic version first. This would put her relatively in the same spot as Magnus. She's Iconic enough, has enough fluff, and would be tied for closest to a third incarnation. Though what you would call her, I have no idea. Would be strange but if it is Gorten, as he was a miner before he went merc, he might be merc/rhulic exclusive thus avoiding the stickiness of gun bunnies everywhere? |
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Post by Charistoph on Apr 5, 2018 14:11:17 GMT
Personally I feel like we'd get Magnus0. I know it wouldn't make much sense as far as lore goes, but from what I can tell, pretty much all the "0" casters have at least three incarnations, tend to be (with some exceptions) battle box casters or iconic casters from their respective factions, and from what I know they tend to have a decent amount of fluff about them. Magnus is the closest thing we have to a third incarnation (we only have two epics, and he's the only one with both versions in mercs), and He's always been a battle box caster, as well as one of the most iconic merc casters as well as one with a lot of fluff and story. Incorrect. Both epic warcasters have their prime iterations in Mercenaries. Only the Legendary has their prime incarnation in another faction. Not my terms, those are the ones used by PP. I don't think a dwarf one is likely. With a dwarf journeyman (unless they made it somehow exclusive to mercs) other factions could start getting access to dwarf jacks, I'm thinking more the gun bunnies. Imagine if you will a cygnar list that now also has a small detachment of bunnies running around? I may be thinking over the top, but I seem to remember talking about a "dwarf journeyman" a while back and it was pretty obvious that part of the reason dwarf jacks were so good, was because only mercs could take them, and only if you brought a dwarf caster, and it was determined that it would be bad otherwise. Right, it's not like people can't take the gun bunnies because there aren't any Rhulic Jack Marshals out there. Oh, wait. That being said, IF it DID happen... I think Ossrum would be a likely candidate. I know he's not as old as Gorten, but his title might make it easier to adjust him to 0 level. Like, Captain Ossrum, or Private Ossrum. And he is a pretty Iconic Dwarf, along with Gorten... so either would be cool. Then again you could even make a case for Durgen, something like "Durgen the Sane" which would represent his time before banishment and all the crazy. Durgen would make more sense then Ossrum, just like Ashlynn and Macbain would make more sense than Damiano. Ossrum is just too new. Ashlyn would be the only other one up for the part otherwise, and only if they somehow released her Epic version first. This would put her relatively in the same spot as Magnus. She's Iconic enough, has enough fluff, and would be tied for closest to a third incarnation. Though what you would call her, I have no idea. Right, because MacBain0 doesn't make any sense, now does it? He isn't iconic at all, nor would immediately allow him to be Crosse2's journeyman in the Llaese Resistance. For the game, Gorten is needed more than Magnus or Shae. There is no Rhulic journeyman warcaster at all. That is a serious miss of an opportunity. However, I do believe Magnus was around before Gorten, story-wise at any rate, so we'll see. Magnus and Gorten were both released in Escalation I'm pretty sure, I bought both battle boxes on the same day way back then. So they could go either way. Not sure how they would do Gorten without him looking utterly pathetic though. Focus3? Gee, look at you go little duder. He could be Focus 3 as a miner, then became Focus 4 when he started the Merc work on the Searforge Commission. Anyway, I stated "story-wise", because I though Magnus had mention in either the lore behind the civil war or Stryker's initial write-up. I wasn't specifying his own warcaster card. |
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Fang
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Post by Fang on Apr 5, 2018 15:18:38 GMT
I don't think a dwarf one is likely. With a dwarf journeyman (unless they made it somehow exclusive to mercs) other factions could start getting access to dwarf jacks, I'm thinking more the gun bunnies. Imagine if you will a cygnar list that now also has a small detachment of bunnies running around? I may be thinking over the top, but I seem to remember talking about a "dwarf journeyman" a while back and it was pretty obvious that part of the reason dwarf jacks were so good, was because only mercs could take them, and only if you brought a dwarf caster, and it was determined that it would be bad otherwise. Right, it's not like people can't take the gun bunnies because there aren't any Rhulic Jack Marshals out there. Oh, wait. While I don't personally disagree with you on your points, I think its important to point out that gun bunnies on Thor lose powerful attack as no focus and stuff like Empower is friendly faction, so while you can take them, they are much less valuable marshaled. |
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Apr 5, 2018 15:50:06 GMT
eerybody better go marshal a gun bunny right now!!!
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