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Post by macdaddy on Feb 7, 2018 19:42:09 GMT
Well guys and gals, its a lot of models and interactions to test here. This CiD seems really ambitious... [Rules PDF Link: cid.privateerpress.com/filedata/fetch?id=60563Some big talking points: Malakov 2's feat now effects All FF, not just BG. Points reductions and mat increase for berserker chasis jacks. Marauder and Juggy increased by a point. Otherwise its just some misc points reductions and the new stuff which seems strong but nothing pops out to me initially as "HOLY COW THIS IS OP" Even Sorscha 3 looks decent, but not oppressive off the bat maybe needs the AOE4 of stationary changed to require a direct hit though. Overall My only complaint right now is the size of this CiD. I feel its just way too much to test... Discuss! |
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Post by bward on Feb 7, 2018 19:49:25 GMT
The only thing that seems nuts is the Tanker suppression solo. Sorcha3 field Marshall is also questionable.
I like the design of the theme. Seems like it does some cool things and I’m excited to play against it. With how hard some of these things hit I can see why PP wasn’t stressing on arm 17 chosen. Arm/boxes and arm cracking seems like the trend.
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Asmoridin
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Post by Asmoridin on Feb 7, 2018 20:26:24 GMT
I really love it overall, but who knows when I'll ever see this stuff in action (until it's actually released). I dig the Tankers, the Battle Engines, heck- all the new things. Definitely what I'll run when I buy some Khador!
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Feb 7, 2018 20:28:26 GMT
Well guys and gals, its a lot of models and interactions to test here. This CiD seems really ambitious... Rules PDFSome big talking points: Malakov 2's feat now effects All FF, not just BG. Points reductions and mat increase for berserker chasis jacks. Marauder and Juggy increased by a point. Otherwise its just some misc points reductions and the new stuff which seems strong but nothing pops out to me initially as "HOLY COW THIS IS OP" Even Sorscha 3 looks decent, but not oppressive off the bat maybe needs the AOE4 of stationary changed to require a direct hit though. Overall My only complaint right now is the size of this CiD. I feel its just way too much to test... Discuss! Your link shoots us right back to this thread. |
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 7, 2018 20:45:50 GMT
aaaand there is the reason I want to boycott PP for the foreseeable future. 24 models. 8 of which are new...
It is so damn hard to argue that PP isn't playing favorites...
[edit] you don't need to tell me I'm salty/jealous/whatever. I know.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Feb 7, 2018 20:54:32 GMT
aaaand there is the reason I want to boycott PP for the foreseeable future. 24 models. 8 of which are new... It is so damn hard to argue that PP isn't playing favorites... [edit] you don't need to tell me I'm salty/jealous/whatever. I know. ? Oh thats mainly because 2 are "Part Swappables" The Tankers and the Chariot are essentially 1 model each with parts you can swap out. In terms of new actual models we get 6 (About as much as the Legion), interms of the amount of models actually entering cid we get 18, with 6 being untouched. The Legion had 16 touched up. |
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Post by twity on Feb 7, 2018 20:56:29 GMT
We also saw zero nerfs, while this has a few
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 7, 2018 21:06:47 GMT
aaaand there is the reason I want to boycott PP for the foreseeable future. 24 models. 8 of which are new... It is so damn hard to argue that PP isn't playing favorites... [edit] you don't need to tell me I'm salty/jealous/whatever. I know. ? Oh thats mainly because 2 are "Part Swappables" The Tankers and the Chariot are essentially 1 model each with parts you can swap out. In terms of new actual models we get 6 (About as much as the Legion), interms of the amount of models actually entering cid we get 18, with 6 being untouched. The Legion had 16 touched up. Warspears and ua didn't get changed in our CiD. so 14. Multi-kits does not mean you are getting less rules, just less boxes to buy. Just like warspears though a few units are in CiD and may or may not change. the potential is there. @ there being nerfs Yeah a point up on juggernauts and marauders. I'm just overcome with sympathy. That's all I've found. but I may be blind. Also, 6 point pow 8 armor piercing gun on an arm 21 solo. Totes legit. Now let me go back to irrational anger >.> |
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Post by bward on Feb 7, 2018 21:08:11 GMT
? Oh thats mainly because 2 are "Part Swappables" The Tankers and the Chariot are essentially 1 model each with parts you can swap out. In terms of new actual models we get 6 (About as much as the Legion), interms of the amount of models actually entering cid we get 18, with 6 being untouched. The Legion had 16 touched up. Warspears and ua didn't get changed in our CiD. so 14. Multi-kits does not mean you are getting less rules, just less boxes to buy. Just like warspears though a few units are in CiD and may or may not change. the potential is there. @ there being nerfs Yeah a point up on juggernauts and marauders. I'm just overcome with sympathy. That's all I've found. but I may be blind. Also, 6 point pow 8 armor piercing gun on an arm 21 solo. Totes legit. Now let me go back to irrational anger >.> Warspears gaining vengeance is not insignificant |
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Feb 7, 2018 21:14:22 GMT
Multi-kits does not mean you are getting less rules, just less boxes to buy. I mean that its just a luck of Circumstance that we get swap-outable elements not so much favouritism. But man I was kinda down on our new selection of stuff but all this envy has actually invigorated my interests. Also the nerfs are pretty harsh for essentially the most iconic jacks of the faction. |
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Feb 7, 2018 21:32:49 GMT
Warspears and ua didn't get changed in our CiD. so 14. Multi-kits does not mean you are getting less rules, just less boxes to buy. Just like warspears though a few units are in CiD and may or may not change. the potential is there. @ there being nerfs Yeah a point up on juggernauts and marauders. I'm just overcome with sympathy. That's all I've found. but I may be blind. Also, 6 point pow 8 armor piercing gun on an arm 21 solo. Totes legit. Now let me go back to irrational anger >.> Warspears gaining vengeance is not insignificant A change to the THEME not the model. |
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Post by Ganso on Feb 7, 2018 21:45:14 GMT
Also, 6 point pow 8 armor piercing gun on an arm 21 solo. Totes legit. Now let me go back to irrational anger >.> Come on dude, lets be reasonable here... we all know that nobody is going to pay for those 6 points ever!  |
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Feb 7, 2018 21:46:38 GMT
A change to the THEME not the model. You got 15 models tweaked. Khador is getting slightly more but it's probably not a good idea to get upset over that or you can get upset over cryx or Even the Northkin. |
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Post by lovehugs on Feb 7, 2018 22:13:34 GMT
Who said Khador was a land of low natural resources?
Just look at all this salt.
Once you get down to the Nitty gritty of points and building a 75pt army though and people see some decent lists, they might see things aren't as OP as what their stats say.
What this is though, for us, is a massive eye opener for how huge CIDs can be. AK theme before was unfinished involved Having two Shocktooper units, maybe Bombadiers with A Kovnik or two.
The playstyle with chariots, some bonus speed now and tanker flavour, should, I think really bring something fresh to stale Khador.
But people that enjoy double fun carriage should still feel at home.
I am however super mad at PP. I've got house repayments to make, and now I gotta go out and buy all the new toys? How do you expect a man to afford food like this?
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Post by bward on Feb 7, 2018 22:22:22 GMT
Warspears gaining vengeance is not insignificant A change to the THEME not the model. Lol... ok. You can stay in the salt mine then. |
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