bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 15, 2018 5:34:26 GMT
What do you all think of Elara 2 running a Forges list with multiple heavies? I think it could be very interesting with her feat and scything touch. Too bad Imperatus is only usable by Vyros in themes...
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Post by elladan52 on Jan 15, 2018 11:29:04 GMT
What do you all think of Elara 2 running a Forges list with multiple heavies? I think it could be very interesting with her feat and scything touch. Too bad Imperatus is only usable by Vyros in themes... A friend of mine ran something like that with a bunch of griffons and 2 marshaled hydras. It was pretty good, the hydras are excellent for marshaling with her. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 15, 2018 11:35:29 GMT
What do you all think of Elara 2 running a Forges list with multiple heavies? I think it could be very interesting with her feat and scything touch. Too bad Imperatus is only usable by Vyros in themes... A friend of mine ran something like that with a bunch of griffons and 2 marshaled hydras. It was pretty good, the hydras are excellent for marshaling with her. Is that marshalled to the Artificer? Hydra's are pretty great under Jack Marshalls because of Focus Battery |
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Post by elladan52 on Jan 15, 2018 13:24:43 GMT
A friend of mine ran something like that with a bunch of griffons and 2 marshaled hydras. It was pretty good, the hydras are excellent for marshaling with her. Is that marshalled to the Artificer? Hydra's are pretty great under Jack Marshalls because of Focus Battery 2 of them, actually. One rounded my desert hydra, pow 21 with 6 attacks is no joke, neither is range 15 pow 17. |
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 16, 2018 0:20:31 GMT
So are these Hydras getting focus from an archanist? That and their kinetic capacitor are the only ways I can think of how a marshaled jack can get focus. I was understanding that power up does not apply to jack marshals because they do not have a battlegroup.
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Post by elladan52 on Jan 16, 2018 2:10:56 GMT
So are these Hydras getting focus from an archanist? That and their kinetic capacitor are the only ways I can think of how a marshaled jack can get focus. I was understanding that power up does not apply to jack marshals because they do not have a battlegroup. Yup. Might have one of the Arcanist units in there. And since the theme gives them shield guard, it's not hard to get at least 1 focus from that. And since you only use 2 when shooting, often you only need to give them 1 each. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 16, 2018 9:22:14 GMT
So are these Hydras getting focus from an archanist? That and their kinetic capacitor are the only ways I can think of how a marshaled jack can get focus. I was understanding that power up does not apply to jack marshals because they do not have a battlegroup. Also as they hold onto their focus they can shake effects like Stationary and Knockdown which are usually the bane of marshalled warjacks |
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Post by mcdermott on Jan 17, 2018 19:29:38 GMT
So are these Hydras getting focus from an archanist? That and their kinetic capacitor are the only ways I can think of how a marshaled jack can get focus. I was understanding that power up does not apply to jack marshals because they do not have a battlegroup. Arcanists at or near max FA are almost an assumption for forges lists. Not even issyria has the focus to run as many jacks as forges likes even close to optimally. |
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jsavard
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Post by jsavard on Jan 18, 2018 19:53:27 GMT
The issue I see with that idea is mainly that the jacks Elara would like to take in her BG (sphinxes, banshees, harpies or sirens) aren't allowed in forges. You are stuck with manticores for heavy melee hitters or the usual griffon spam...
I definetly take the Nyss Hunters in that list though.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jan 19, 2018 23:27:31 GMT
The issue I see with that idea is mainly that the jacks Elara would like to take in her BG (sphinxes, banshees, harpies or sirens) aren't allowed in forges. You are stuck with manticores for heavy melee hitters or the usual griffon spam... I definetly take the Nyss Hunters in that list though. Personally I like her with the Phoenix. You lose a POW on the main weapon but you gain a speed which a Alpha strike caster like Elara loves and you get an arc node that doesn't mind positioning aggressively to get out Marked for Death and cycle Dark Shroud. |
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germanicus
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Post by germanicus on Jan 22, 2018 18:50:26 GMT
Personally I like her with the Phoenix. You lose a POW on the main weapon but you gain a speed which a Alpha strike caster like Elara loves and you get an arc node that doesn't mind positioning aggressively to get out Marked for Death and cycle Dark Shroud. I'm pondering giving a pair of Phoenices the run out with Elara2... they never see much play at tournament level these days which is a pity... They used to go around with a massive bullseye on their forehead, but they almost go under the radar now. Taking two in Forges with a Chimera lurking about seems like it could cause a couple headaches... perhaps... |
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jan 22, 2018 18:59:25 GMT
Personally I like her with the Phoenix. You lose a POW on the main weapon but you gain a speed which a Alpha strike caster like Elara loves and you get an arc node that doesn't mind positioning aggressively to get out Marked for Death and cycle Dark Shroud. I'm pondering giving a pair of Phoenices the run out with Elara2... they never see much play at tournament level these days which is a pity... I almost always run her with a two of them something like this, considering dropping the Nyss for more Halbs. Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Defenders of Ios (Elara 2) Elara, Death's Shadow [+28] - Chimera [8] - Phoenix [18] - Phoenix [18] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Dahlia Hallyr [17] Houseguard Thane [0(4)] Cylena Raefyll & Nyss Hunters (max) [19] - Soulless Escort (1) [1] Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13] - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4] - Soulless Escort (1) [1] |
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germanicus
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Post by germanicus on Jan 22, 2018 19:46:44 GMT
I almost always run her with a two of them something like this, considering dropping the Nyss for more Halbs. Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Defenders of Ios (Elara 2) Elara, Death's Shadow [+28] - Chimera [8] - Phoenix [18] - Phoenix [18] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Dahlia Hallyr [17] Houseguard Thane [0(4)] Cylena Raefyll & Nyss Hunters (max) [19] - Soulless Escort (1) [1] Houseguard Halberdiers (max) [13] - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard [4] - Soulless Escort (1) [1] What's DH & Danger Noodle's role in the list? o.O That's quite a heavy points sink that I'd likely drop for an AFG and get Silly Willy/FKG for Elara... :/ (Oh, being two points off a second free solo, that would seriously annoy me (not your list, BTW, just the idea that when I build a list, I need to either maximise free shit or be at those thresholds or a couple points over and rarely any more so I can concentrate on BG/support issues)... -_- ) |
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Jan 22, 2018 20:58:31 GMT
The Snake is likely just personal preference. It provides a solid ranged presence that is completely self sufficient and relatively safe. AFG could accomplish this as well but the snake has some late game assassination presence that has really paid off for me. A ghostly boundless charged heavy swinging at four dice to hit on the charge and then paralyze after that kills casters.
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