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Post by ninjastars on Jan 2, 2018 22:28:46 GMT
And there are some interesting lists in there. conflictchamber.com/?event=30It was nice to browse through and see what people are doing with the CID changes.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Jan 2, 2018 23:27:56 GMT
About as much Madrak1 as I was expecting but more Borka2.
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Post by tomw on Jan 3, 2018 0:11:58 GMT
A lot of those lists seem a bit... odd. I guess you never know what they’re built to handle in a team tournament though!
People seem to be liking the madrak1 list with two bouncers and an impaler and the fenns (think the MoM podcast suggested it?). It doesn’t look like it could crack heavy armour to me, but it’ll be interesting to see how it does. Hope it gets some good results!
I’m glad to see so many brawlers in lists. It’ll be good to see some gameplay feedback on him, hopefully experiences with him will be positive.
Thanks for sharing the link!
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Post by deviantcad on Jan 3, 2018 3:15:28 GMT
I have to agree with some of them being weird. The max bears list with Brun and Lug is kinda funny though. That is what 6 bears?
I really like mauler bomber with Mad1 not sure why so many went with impaler double bouncer, I thought it might have been a "well I got these in my battle box" thing.
That being said I really like Banky's Mad1 list and I think I saw a cold grandma list with Lanyssa that looked really intresting.
Hopefully we can get a few reports on how some people do. Deep down I'm pulling for the Doomy3 list.
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Post by A-Mo on Jan 3, 2018 20:25:01 GMT
Cliff notes incase anyone is interested. 11 total Troll players, 2 of which are on the same team.
- Kolgrima/Borka2 - Jarl/Gunnbjorn - Kolgrima/Madrak1 - Madrak3/Madrak1 – Single Beast in both builds (Kings) - Ragnar/Madrak1 - Gunnbjorn1/Madrak1 - Borka2/ Madrak1 - Kolgrima/Madrak1 - Kolgrima/Madrak1 - Kolgrima/Madrak1 - Doomy3/Madrak1
Most of the Madrak1 players are playing in BoH, but there are 2 SotN lists.
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Post by A-Mo on Jan 3, 2018 20:27:53 GMT
I really like mauler bomber with Mad1 not sure why so many went with impaler double bouncer, I thought it might have been a "well I got these in my battle box" thing. Pretty sure its because Shield Guard and Snipe are so important. After a bouncer and Impaler, the 2nd bouncer fills the warbeast points. Lists are trying to max the free stuff from units.
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Post by gdnerd on Jan 3, 2018 21:27:24 GMT
I'm really interested to see how this goes down - I was originally looking to go but ended up not putting together a team. Does anyone know if there will be a twitter account live updating this stuff / a twitch stream? I'm looking to get a better snapshot of the meta and trolls issues in it before I go to LVO.
Edit: Also I'm happy that the wisdom of the crowd seems to be in line my assumption that PoD Kolgrima is seemingly the correct call when fielding her (unless I missed someone, every Kolgrima player had her in PoD except Felix who had her in SotN). I question whether RFP is valuable enough to go BoH instead of SotN for Madrak 1 but that is neither here nor there. I'll do some more list reading this evening.
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Post by skurkious on Jan 3, 2018 22:16:12 GMT
I found it interesting there were no Grims, Calandra's, Grissel2s, or Doomshaper2s.
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Post by gdnerd on Jan 3, 2018 22:53:25 GMT
I found it interesting there were no Grims, Calandra's, Grissel2s, or Doomshaper2s. I can speak to Doom2 at least - if you're playing a heavy brick with another Warlock, you probably don't want to run him. So I expect to not see him along Kolgrima. I think he also pairs poorly with Madrak1 unless we're living in a bizzarro meta where everyone is running double armor all the time. TBH I'm probably shelving Doom2 for the foreseeable future. He's a total monster but I think he requires a more accommodating meta.
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Post by deviantcad on Jan 3, 2018 23:25:59 GMT
Free points are at 20 so you are maxing out at 3 free things. You can do that with a bomber and a mauler the same as impaler double bouncer. I do think snipe is really importent, I just think the bomber is better use of points. Champs are reliant on the charge to break armour and a mauler makes both your beast pretty good at breaking armor. You could also take warders in theme for sheild guard and they argurable work with madrak1 feat better.
That being said I haven't tried it. And I guess you miss out on a few RFP attacks with less warriors.
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Post by gdnerd on Jan 3, 2018 23:56:00 GMT
Bomber also tends to run really hot whereas the bg described doesn't and is tankier. I'd say it's to taste.
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Post by deviantcad on Jan 4, 2018 1:00:12 GMT
Hmm, that is a good point too. Although the impaler like to run hot as well. It does give You 1 more piece to trade, transfer, score and an extra battery.
Maybe the 3 beast BG is better at an attrition game. There seems to be a mix of the two options hopefullu we will get a few battle reports And that will shed more light.
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Post by joetortillas on Jan 4, 2018 6:26:24 GMT
While it is fun to look at lists and there are some hidden gems in there, you also have to take the event with a grain of salt. It is not WTC; there will be a bunch of people just looking to have some fun and not bring the most competitive pairing/list they can. Also, it is a team event for what it is worth.
I'm sure we will see a lot of cool lists in 2018 as the latest changes are still fresh and people are slowly using their troll again so I'm very curious to see how pairings will develop. This event just confirms Kolgrima and Madrak1 is good which is quite obvious. Also happy to see some people are using Borka2!
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Post by Bomma on Jan 4, 2018 7:14:12 GMT
I have moved to the 3 light battle group, pretty sure its the way to go. Although seeing as you can only get free points from 60 points of your troops there is a bit of wiggle room I feel.
Surprised to see so many of the double Fenns for Madrak1.. going to love to see some of the battle reports from there games, hopefully a few of the troll players pop in here and let us know how they go.
Is there a stream going up from this event?
B.
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Post by Arcaux on Jan 4, 2018 11:28:46 GMT
I have moved to the 3 light battle group, pretty sure its the way to go. Although seeing as you can only get free points from 60 points of your troops there is a bit of wiggle room I feel. Surprised to see so many of the double Fenns for Madrak1.. going to love to see some of the battle reports from there games, hopefully a few of the troll players pop in here and let us know how they go. Is there a stream going up from this event? B. I think that double fenns list is flavour of the month since Keith mentioned it on the Muse on Minis cast.
Troll players don't have any super successful players to copy at the moment so they will copy a list suggested by a good player even if he doesn't really play the faction.
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