iggie
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Post by iggie on Dec 22, 2017 20:34:08 GMT
Currently, I have a giant battle foam cardboard box i put all my miniatures in, but its not really that handy to bring out to events. So i just end up taking a few selected models i tossed in a shoe box....i know its chaos. Just curious what everyone uses to carry their armies with.
I found a Feldherr case i liked, but after reading the reviews seems it doesnt fit 30MM bases, only 28mm. So there is this giant fear of buying a case online and not knowing if it'll work until its too late, and $100 later =(
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Post by elshinare on Dec 24, 2017 23:08:02 GMT
I just bought a sword bag from battlefoam, will let you know what the standard loadout is like and what easily fits. Don't have any gargantuan or monstrous models, but seems like those tend to have their own specific sets of battlefoam.
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regleant
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Post by regleant on Dec 25, 2017 3:00:06 GMT
Battlefoam is expensive, but I've carried that bag for miles and taken it as a Carry On for multiple international flights. Only recently after 6 years of abuse does it need replaced, as the original shoulder strap snapped and the zipper frayed. All-in, I'm impressed.
I will say that the Custom foam (e.g. colossals) is nice, but if you don't have your model posed the exact same way they do, you'll have to make some 'adjustments' to the foam with a razor.
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Dec 27, 2017 0:33:43 GMT
I have a few Sabol and battlefoam bags.
The sabol bags are more economic, but probably slight to somewhat less durable. That said, i have platoon bags over a decade old, as is my motorpool bag. With the exception of some old pin punctures, there's no rip, tear, or other damage past the motorpools rear elastic having lost its elasticity (which is honestly my own damn fault more than lack of quality). The biggest downfall is that the older models don't have rigid sides, and the ones that you can get rigid sides for are at additional cost, and really aren't all that rigid. That said, for bag sizes Platoon, Army, and Motorpool, the only reason you NEED rigid siding is if you were intending to put something on top of the bag. If you don't do that, like storing the bag up on a closet shelf with nothing heavy on it, the rigid sides are superfluous for a Sabol bag. Treated well, the bags will last decades.
Sabol's foam is hit or miss ; sometimes the glue job is not the best, and some of the foam is harder / scratchier than others. That said, GamePlus makes absolutely outstanding foam that fits in Sabol bags and is a soft foam without a trace of the glue issues Sabol has. Their foam is 5-10% more expensive depending where you get it, but totally worth it.
If you're budget conscious i'd recommend looking at Sabol with some GamePlus foam. Get the pluckable stuff and you will not have to worry about whether or not it fits 30mm bases or not because you can make it fit whatever you need it to.
I was a battlefoam resistor for a long time : horror stories about warranty issues (as well as ... "interesting" business stories) staved me off for a while. I won a pack 720 bag (empty) in a contest and I liked it enough that i bought another one gently used. They are incredibly durable and the rigid plates in them make stacking them a non-issue. They are really high quality and if you go with the MOLE loadout system you can basically custom tailor any bag to exactly what you want / need.
They are expensive, but they are very high quality. If you are planning on traveling with mini's on a plane then its almost no contest, Battlefoam's bags are basically the best you can get in my opinion. That said, if you don't travel for events or long distances or take planes with minis, they are kind of overkill unless your storage is limited and you need to be able to store multiple bags on top of one another. They are also a lot more customizable than any other bag system out there. There is a little add on bag that holds another couple inches of trays that will adapt to the top or bottom of the bags i have for instance, or i can connect both of my 720's together (albeit, for a very heavy and unwieldly bag, but it's an option).
My biggest gripe about battlefoam is it's foam. Its a pretty unique shape so you're basically locked into using theirs. I like pluck foam rather than custom cut foam as i buy / sell / trade armies fairly frequently. If you don't do that the custom cut foam might be a good solution if you don't have faction / game ADD. If you do, don't do custom cut foam - while its nice, its time intensive on your part and its (i think) extremely expensive for what it is (which is basically a CAD or Revit dwg cut into a piece of foam which you have to actually do most of the work to originally configure).
Also their small pluck foam is really great, but the larger / taller trays only come with the pluck blocks that are much larger ; this can make maximizing space difficult, and leave you with less than ideal shapes. The larger sabol stuff retains the smaller pluck block footprint which means you can really tailor it to a mini. I'm not sure why they do this, but my guess is to sort of softly encourage the custom shape thing (as the margins on that have to be huge by comparison).
So my recommendation: If you're only traveling locally by automobile of some sort, i'd recommend Sabol with Gameplus Foam. If you're traveling even regionally, or in any way that will require putting your minis on a plane, Battlefoam all the way.
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Post by elshinare on Jan 16, 2018 9:52:07 GMT
Budget wise, The shield and sword bags are fair prices ($65 U.S.) Just got a shield bag with standard loadout. Now, I will say this, if you can spend the $85 U.S. for custom trays, that may be the better way to go, 4 inches of pluckfoam swallows Loki and a pureblood 3.5 or 3 would probably be fine. The large troop tray can snuggly fit my Skinwalkers (the axes dig in to the foam, so I need to be cautious pulling them out) and it fits Gorax Ragers and Argus well, and Tanith fits perfect too. The small troop tray, well, my druid wilder fits, as do my shifting stones, once I pick up more models I will let you know what else fits.
Update: So after 2 weeks of having my shield bag, it is comparable to a Battlefoam PP bag as far as the amount of foam that is in it. I think it would be well worth it to buy 1 or 2 custom trays (or order it with custom trays for $85 u.s.?) having a 2.5" large troop tray and a 3.5" pluck foam may be better than what it comes with. But for the price I don't think much can beat it. On a public bus with tight seating it fits well on my lap or in the next seat, I would suggest some sort of waterproofing spray or treatment if you don't drive.
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gmonkey
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Post by gmonkey on Jan 24, 2018 21:05:52 GMT
Personally, I just got super-lucky to buy a used army transport bag with foam included for $20 from a FLGS.
Previous to this, for years, I've been using two 24x12x6" photo memento boxes I got from a craft store. They're made of heavy cardboard and have leather handles and metal corners, so they're pretty durable. I had to re-attach the handles with bolts and washers last year, but they've held up very well. I took foam from an old couch cushion, which was left in my garage when I bought my house, and cut it up to make the foam inserts, then lined the three layers each with corrugated cardboard, cut to fit. Works great.
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Post by elshinare on Mar 23, 2018 19:08:35 GMT
Okay so after a couple months and having bought more models I can say this about the battlefoam shield bag. 1: The standard loadout is doable, but,it could be better,The top tray can fit shifting stones and druid wilder sized models just fine.good for tokens and dice. The middle tray works pretty good for medium based models, although I did have to make some modifications for Skinwalkers, especially the U.A.,but a Razorwing Griffin is too big for this tray, although a Rotterhorn will fit with just a little snipping of the compartment for The wings to fit. The bottom tray being 4 inch pluckfoam is needed, although models taller than a Riphorn Satyr you need to lay length wise instead of standing. 2:Durability is nice for a non hard sided case, I walk and bike everywhere and this has taken a few jumbles. I will say it might be a good idea to get some sort of wax that you can run on the outer surface then use a blow dryer or heat gun to get it to soak into the materials (poor man's waterproofing). 3: Compartments are fine for most items. As it is i have my mini prime book in the main compartment with my templates for quick and easy access. I keep my tablet for web searching in the main pouch on the front, a couple rings and pens with paper as well. The zipper pouch I keep my tape measure and modeling tools.
Downsides are that the trays feel slightly too small in heights for a few models, and the 1 inch troop tray is definitely too small for most troops (that I have at least). I am also going to get a different shoulder strap that has metal hooks, the plastic squeaks a lot when walking, like I got a mouse in my bag.
For $65 U.S.D. it's not a bad bargain bag. I may buy a sword bag in a few months, maybe with a custom loadout and will give my opinion on that one as I get use out of it.
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Fang
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Post by Fang on Apr 4, 2018 15:56:15 GMT
I have a smallish plastic box that can fit in a bag or small suitcase. I bought some cheap metal baking sheets that I cut up and attached to the bottom of the case, and lined the wall with thin foam. I can put a second plate that is held in place by magnets and wooden corner supports about a warrior model's height from the the lid of the box. All my models either have magnets in the base or pieces of metal (plastic models in particular I like weighing down with metal), and to be fair it takes at least 5 magnets for metal jacks but they don't move if you use the right amount of magnets per model. I've had the box get accidentally knocked off a table an only one or two guys came loose from the 40-50 models (who then received an extra magnet, and tested by me shaking the the plate with only those models on it upside down to confirm that they wouldn't come loose again).
They don't need protective foam in my experience because they don't move much (I do put foam from blisters around the heavy models though just in case), and it doubles as a storage solution. If you pack the bases in tight together, or place dividers they won't even move at all. To make the box costs less than 10 euro, and the magnets I can get from Germany for 0.14ish per magnet (here within a week), or China for 0.05ish per (here within a month). The removable metal tray also can double as a carrying tray, and I put magnets on my token/dice/etc box so I can put it in as well.
Just an idea as an alternate to the foam solutions. It is heavier, though not too much so I think (the metal sheets are pretty thin and the plastic is light).
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Post by elshinare on Jun 22, 2018 4:51:10 GMT
Just curious if anyone has tried the battlefoam backpacks?
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