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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 1:17:52 GMT
Hey there Cygnarans. Legion player here. I often times find myself looking at other faction's stuff and saying "wow thats cool", or "man thats really good!" then looking at my faction's "version" (if you will) and saying ew. I often times nitpick things too, and talk about how bad stuff is etc. etc. However, I got to thinking... There's a saying that the grass is always greener on the other side. More than likely (not all of the time, but probably a lot), I'm looking at tools other people have, wishing I had access to them, and taking for granted things that my faction has that other people may not have.
So, I've decided to get an outside perspective from other players of different factions. What do y'all, as cygnar players, see in Legion's stable of pieces that make you think "hey I wish I had that"?
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Post by bluebarren on Nov 13, 2017 1:35:28 GMT
Striders, like anything that has to do with striders. The unit, the deathstalkers, the cav, all of it. Eyeless sight on all beasts, Angelius. Lylyth3 is pretty dope. The hellmouth is kind of absurd. I don't get to play vs legion too often anymore so i don't have a ton of input.
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Post by droopingpuppy on Nov 13, 2017 2:01:39 GMT
Yeah, Striders. Both of them have incredible DEF as well as Stealth. Blightblades are the excellent jammer and Scouts are one of the best infantry killer unit in the game, and also has Reposition to keep enough distance to not get caught. Consider we are Cygnar, not Legion, we will imagine them with our ranged attack buffs as well(and that's why they are only a sour grape for us). Personally, because I like flying and nimble creature, so I like Seraph chassis. Although it is not so durable in the real games... Azrael is a tempting tool too, for its ridiculous ranged damage output. Its pitiful defense would be a problem for Legion but Cygnar gamers will imagine it with Arcane Shield(and again, that's why it is a sour grape for us). Swordsmen would be an excellent replacement of both Stormblade Infantry and Sword Knight, for their durability(DEF 14!), minor blast protection as well as good anti armor melee attack. Blighted Ogruns are good units since we don't have so called 'heavy infantry' styled unit. Blackfrost shard is a better replacement for utilityless Black 13th. Even Blighted Archers are good for us. They are cheaper but durable than Long Gunners, able to shoot behind of the others unlikr most units, and with the CA they are able to shoot more than Long Gunners because Dual Shot is a trap - in the real games they are move and shoot first then got killed by thr enemy ranged attacks without a chance to make Dual Attack, or you need to spend much points that better spent elsewhere. Also, Brisbane1 will likes them very well for they can move, shoot twice with a tight formation, then put Foxhole to have both blast protection as well as cover. Because our Long Gunners are similar to them I am always think about them when whinning about Long Gunnets. And, we know that why we can't get the same thing. We have something that you didn't have, and vise versa. But, it would be fun to see the outside perspective. We may see some jewels on your hands, but actually many of them are the plain stones.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Nov 13, 2017 2:30:42 GMT
Neraph, native sprint on a spd 7 heavy is great
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Post by pixh on Nov 13, 2017 2:45:43 GMT
These are the 2 factions I play. Although due to Cygnar being scattered about the painting table I have been mostly playing Legion. This is a fun question to answer from both sides. I am limiting myself to just one from each catagory.
Cygnar gets: Abby2: flying warjacks just sounds awesome. Azrael: be right at home in a Cygnar gunline. Hellmouth: just add Arcane Shield. Solo is hard to choose because they are so often a support that may not be functional in another faction. Deathstalkers kinda win by default here but Warlord can be an interesting choice.
Legion gets: Jakes2: escort, sprint, and positive charge in a faction full of fast flying beasts. Hurricane:. Trencher Infantry: cloud wall and eyeless sight. Captain Finn: the Jr is very tempting and a maybe better choice overall but the thought of Finn and Rysas running around together is so appealing.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Nov 13, 2017 3:39:09 GMT
The naga and the seraph are awesome splashes that can do a lot of work for a matchup
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 6:20:50 GMT
Blighted Ogruns are good units since we don't have so called 'heavy infantry' styled unit. I'm surprised to hear praise for the Ogrun! The warspears are okay (especially with Rhyas) but the warmongers make us Legion players want to throw up...
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 13, 2017 6:22:08 GMT
Neraph, native sprint on a spd 7 heavy is great Kinda hard to kill heavies with it outside of fyanna though. Its dirt cheap for what it does, though.
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Post by droopingpuppy on Nov 13, 2017 10:25:31 GMT
Blighted Ogruns are good units since we don't have so called 'heavy infantry' styled unit. I'm surprised to hear praise for the Ogrun! The warspears are okay (especially with Rhyas) but the warmongers make us Legion players want to throw up... I am half believe that some Cygnar gamers are even consider MKII Cinerators if we can use them(they are 8 damage in MKII, though ). Although the meta is changed greately. And yes, with some protections warspears seems good, but warmongers are bad and they really need for 8 damage box, ARM boost or some kind of innate defensive tech.
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Post by sludgeogre on Nov 13, 2017 17:55:51 GMT
Slipstream is my favorite thing in Legion. Really unlocks quite a bit of threat vectors. Combined with eyeless sight and a lot of flying stuff, you can take control of the board really, really fast.
Legion is sort of a glass cannon play style in some ways, but they also have some super durable beasts that can help them deliver their glass cannons. It's pretty fun to play against, but I feel like it has a very high skill floor and that the current list diversity in Legion isn't that great.
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Post by chillychinaman on Nov 13, 2017 19:39:44 GMT
Striders, like anything that has to do with striders. The unit, the deathstalkers, the cav, all of it. Eyeless sight on all beasts, Angelius. Lylyth3 is pretty dope. The hellmouth is kind of absurd. I don't get to play vs legion too often anymore so i don't have a ton of input. I'm interested at the Angelius response. It seems, animus aside, that Legion players have moved on from it to either Neraphs that take buffs better or Carniveans that are stronger for a few points more.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Nov 14, 2017 14:05:22 GMT
And, we know that why we can't get the same thing. We have something that you didn't have, and vise versa. But, it would be fun to see the outside perspective. We may see some jewels on your hands, but actually many of them are the plain stones. That's one of the biggest things that I think many people over look. Not saying that's being done here. But many think things are gold because it's better than their model Y. But my faction doesn't have the buffs your faction does. Imagine Azrael or the Archangel with snipe. Typhon with Arcane Shield. Blightbringer with that maintenance phase shot upkeep (sentry?). People usually consider their own models as subpar in comparison but neglect the in faction buffs. Like the Cryx situation. "Revenants are bad and over costed why are they getting nerfed?!" I can't say I really envy anything in the Cygnar stable in terms of models alone. I envy the massive amount of synergistic abilities they have and how high things stack to absurdity. Yes storm lances got toned down so some of the "absurd" is now in line. But not a single game do I get attacked by the base numbers on your cards. It's never as simple as taking that range 12 rat 7 pow 10 shot. It turns into a range 16, rat 9, mage sight, pow 12, crit brutal, with an additional die to hit... or some crazy thing like that.
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