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Post by phantomsig on Oct 18, 2017 6:33:38 GMT
Forum posts aren't happening too much so thought i would check in with everybody!
How are your games going? Any interesting lists? How do you think the theme drop will change your world?
I'm in a bit of a rut at the moment, i've dabbled with 6 - 7 galvanizers (TEPs, Heavies and a PA to taste) with Lucant and Axis, but my meta are pretty skilled, meaning my w/l ratio is depressingly low (though the love of the game is keeping me going).
I'm currently trying to find a list pairing for a big tourney in January. I am dabbling with the idea of Orion and the PA, with the basic premise of everything screens the Caster/PA/Corollary/Eilish while the PA shoots things. Hopefully the combination of a 7 shot RAT 7 gun and all that recursion will be effective.
Orion (+28) PA 38 Corrollary 6
Enigma Foundry x 4 ( 0 + 0 + 4 + 4) ADO 2 Eilish 5 Steelsoul Protector 4 Reciprocators 18 Obstructors 11 Obstructors 11
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Post by javaman21011 on Oct 18, 2017 17:21:41 GMT
What lists are usually in your meta?
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Post by phantomsig on Oct 18, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
* Dr Arkadius with a bunch of beasts * Rask and pokemon friends (all the solo warlocks) * Mercs * Cygnar (trenchers everywhere) * Grymkin * Khador (A variety) * Skorne (Again, a variety)
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Post by danfromchicago on Oct 18, 2017 21:18:23 GMT
Will be running Lucant in Clockwork Legions today conflictchamber.com/#cc201b_-0SdjdndBd4d9dEdEdEdDdcdcdydzdudsConvergence Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Clockwork Legions (Lucant 1) Father Lucant, Divinity Architect [+28] - Conservator [12] - Corollary [6] - Diffuser [6] - Inverter [15] Enigma Foundry [0(4)] Enigma Foundry [0(4)] Enigma Foundry [0(4)] Steelsoul Protector [4] Clockwork Angels [5] Clockwork Angels [5] Eradicators (max) [15] Optifex Directive [4] Reciprocators (max) [18] Reductors (max) [13]
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Post by claptrap on Oct 18, 2017 22:30:55 GMT
Had a interesting Lucant CL list: conflictchamber.com/#cc201b_-0Sdjd7d7dBd9dEdEdcdcdzduduConvergence Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Clockwork Legions (Lucant 1) Father Lucant, Divinity Architect [+28] - Cipher [16] - Cipher [16] - Corollary [6] - Inverter [15] Enigma Foundry [0(4)] Enigma Foundry [0(4)] Clockwork Angels [5] Clockwork Angels [5] Optifex Directive [4] Reciprocators (max) [18] Reciprocators (max) [18] Essentially just using CL to get one EF per unit of Reciprocators. Angels jam, Recips hold or contest zones, and the heavies go where they are needed. Kind of missing an ADO, but a really tough list to remove.
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Post by rustedgear on Oct 19, 2017 17:04:49 GMT
Things are ticking along. I've been experimenting with Clockwork Legions and with Eilish. Here are my thoughts/opinions so far:
Eilish is fantastic, especially with that re-roll for the TEP. Eilish is a good deterrent for battle mages.
Aurora brings more to Clockwork Legions than Axis. Axis is better with Galvanzier spam than in Clockwork Legions.
Lucant doesn't give enough pathfinder to make him good in Clockwork Legions. Aurora in Clockwork Legions is strong, but I'm not convinced it's as strong as Axis Galvanizer spam.
Lucant/Aurora as a pair is really nice as it is on ADR, which means Eilish can be in either list. TEP can be traded out if the opponent drops Issyria, etc. The pairing has some pretty glaring weaknesses, I think, though. Neither list plays very well into Skorne, or Grymkin, which will definitely be in attendance.
There's a risk of Clockwork Legion recursion being covered by the meta-at-large because people are tech-ing against recursion (see: Ghost Fleet).
That's all mostly opinion. I'll be taking Lucant/Aurora to an ADR permitted steamroller this weekend. I guess I'll see how it goes.
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Post by themusicalcake on Oct 20, 2017 12:05:23 GMT
How does everyone feel about ADR right now? What would you take as your optional points if you were running a CL and DI list?
I was thinking about doing a good old Father Mother pairing in CL and DI respectively, but I'm not sure.
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faelin
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Post by faelin on Oct 20, 2017 23:29:24 GMT
How are you managing your souls? To makes sure they are distributed as much as possible so you don't have any EF overloaded and each able to rebuild someone every turn
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Post by phantomsig on Oct 22, 2017 22:21:37 GMT
Things are ticking along. I've been experimenting with Clockwork Legions and with Eilish. Here are my thoughts/opinions so far: Eilish is fantastic, especially with that re-roll for the TEP. Eilish is a good deterrent for battle mages. Aurora brings more to Clockwork Legions than Axis. Axis is better with Galvanzier spam than in Clockwork Legions. Lucant doesn't give enough pathfinder to make him good in Clockwork Legions. Aurora in Clockwork Legions is strong, but I'm not convinced it's as strong as Axis Galvanizer spam. Lucant/Aurora as a pair is really nice as it is on ADR, which means Eilish can be in either list. TEP can be traded out if the opponent drops Issyria, etc. The pairing has some pretty glaring weaknesses, I think, though. Neither list plays very well into Skorne, or Grymkin, which will definitely be in attendance. There's a risk of Clockwork Legion recursion being covered by the meta-at-large because people are tech-ing against recursion (see: Ghost Fleet). That's all mostly opinion. I'll be taking Lucant/Aurora to an ADR permitted steamroller this weekend. I guess I'll see how it goes. Great feedback! Thank you I think i am now of the mind that if i take the Prime Axiom, i have to take Eilish. Having the confidence of a reroll makes me much more relaxed! Do all attack rolls in a single tep spray get rerolled with puppet master? Or just one?
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Post by phantomsig on Oct 22, 2017 22:25:32 GMT
How are you managing your souls? To makes sure they are distributed as much as possible so you don't have any EF overloaded and each able to rebuild someone every turn Hi Faelin, I'm by no means an expert, but if i have 4 enigma foundries, i make sure that every warrior model is always within the command of two of them. That way if one foundry is full, the other one get's the soul. A good opponent will try and concentrate the damage onto areas where your foundries are full so the souls don't get kept. Another trick is to keep one model from each small based unit behind two foundries that are base to base. This means that even if the rest of the unit get's wiped out, your foundries will have a model to give recursion to.
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faelin
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Post by faelin on Oct 22, 2017 23:39:23 GMT
Really? If one is full it will overflow to the next one in range? Do you know anywhere where that is stated? I always thought it went to thw nearest and if that is full it was lost. Shows you how much I use infantry.
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Post by Korianneder on Oct 22, 2017 23:48:35 GMT
The closest legal model collects the soul. If a model is full then it doesn't count as a legal model, so it goes to the next closest.
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Post by rustedgear on Oct 23, 2017 14:05:25 GMT
Do all attack rolls in a single tep spray get rerolled with puppet master? Or just one? You only get to re-roll one, but if it's a critical model to hit, or a silly low damage roll, it's very nice to have.
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Post by jediguru on Mar 16, 2018 20:04:06 GMT
Not a lot of talk on the CoC pages here these days even with the little bit of excitement from the CG cid.
What are people playing these days?
What are you experimenting with?
What's your meta like and what are your problem matchups?
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bundeez
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Post by bundeez on Mar 17, 2018 11:28:40 GMT
I tried for several months to get the Clockwork Legions theme to work, but failed.
Now that Orion is out I plan to play him a lot.
Locke is cool and all, but not very exciting to me. I have played 2 x Destruction Initiative lists in tournaments for a year now, and am getting quite bored of it. And she is yet another Jack caster that doesn't bring anything particularly new.
For me Convergence (Destruction Initiative) struggles on both attrition and scenario. Once you lose all your servitors your options (ie. contesting, jam, block charge lanes etc.) become limited. Facing too many dudes can be a real issue, same goes for very high armour or extreme threat ranges. No particular faction is worse I think.
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