Fire Step
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Post by Fire Step on Sept 29, 2017 22:14:37 GMT
- Merc and minions (where applicable) added.
- Guardians of the Temple- Tough Temple Flameguard, no knockdown while b2b
- Avatar added to faithful masses
I'm sure there's more, and I'm sure this will be an impact on list building. Right now i need to sit and digest, and open the flood gates a little.
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Post by bskhacker on Sept 29, 2017 22:19:56 GMT
Yo! That awesome I think I need to change my pants!
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d3z
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Post by d3z on Sept 29, 2017 22:39:51 GMT
Hand of vengeance no longer on lights? Or was this always the case, in which case I was over excited for amon in faithful masses.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on Sept 29, 2017 22:54:58 GMT
Guardians of the temple is looking a little better to me. Which is good. I have all those painted Flameguard just itching to be used.
Is it worth my picking up a second unit of Temple Flameguard now?
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Post by Demeritus on Sept 29, 2017 22:59:32 GMT
Hand of vengeance no longer on lights? Or was this always the case, in which case I was over excited for amon in faithful masses. Used to all jacks, now just heavies and colossals.
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 29, 2017 23:14:04 GMT
I like the themes might even buy flameguard.
FM is still good. Really depressing they took away HoV for the lights instead of just changing dervishes in some way.
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Post by paradox on Sept 29, 2017 23:18:12 GMT
I like the themes might even buy flameguard. FM is still good. Really depressing they took away HoV for the lights instead of just changing dervishes in some way. I think it's better this way. The theme still gets HoV on heavies, which is plenty fine. The theme has Avatar. Dervishes are still ridiculously good.
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Post by greytemplar on Sept 30, 2017 1:53:32 GMT
That's a bit disappointing that it's now only heavies which get HoV. Thats not where it's fully useful since it's lights which need the extra damage.
At least the TFG theme now has a good benefit for infantry.
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Post by djgibraltar on Sept 30, 2017 2:54:22 GMT
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Sept 30, 2017 6:59:55 GMT
That's a bit disappointing that it's now only heavies which get HoV. Thats not where it's fully useful since it's lights which need the extra damage. I think the change was because of Amon.
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Post by WantonRanger on Sept 30, 2017 9:49:25 GMT
That's a bit disappointing that it's now only heavies which get HoV. Thats not where it's fully useful since it's lights which need the extra damage. I think the change was because of Amon. I think it's a bit of a crazy change when they hand gangfighter to all cryx jacks for just playing the game normally. No-one even has to die, everyone just gets gangfighter oh and the other theme has carapace... of course they just released all the redone cryx jacks so probably a push for sales... As above the light jacks needed the damage boost and there were plenty of other casters who would use non-dervishes etc... So now you are trying to squeeze all heavy jacks into your infantry theme in order for the only useful benefit to work. Massively restricts the number of jacks who can benefit from it anyway and the Avatar is a non-event...
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Fire Step
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Post by Fire Step on Sept 30, 2017 10:53:40 GMT
I think the change was because of Amon. I think it's a bit of a crazy change when they hand gangfighter to all cryx jacks for just playing the game normally. No-one even has to die, everyone just gets gangfighter oh and the other theme has carapace... of course they just released all the redone cryx jacks so probably a push for sales... As above the light jacks needed the damage boost and there were plenty of other casters who would use non-dervishes etc... So now you are trying to squeeze all heavy jacks into your infantry theme in order for the only useful benefit to work. Massively restricts the number of jacks who can benefit from it anyway and the Avatar is a non-event... Crusaders, a ten point heavy, cheapest in faction, goes all the way to pow 25, mat 11 under Amon, all for the pleasure of one man dying next to him. I don't think we have a problem honestly. For me the lights are usually the ones setting up the synergy anyway, mat7 base dervishes and boosted hits from other lights is the starter for the crusader main course.
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Post by WantonRanger on Sept 30, 2017 11:00:49 GMT
I think it's a bit of a crazy change when they hand gangfighter to all cryx jacks for just playing the game normally. No-one even has to die, everyone just gets gangfighter oh and the other theme has carapace... of course they just released all the redone cryx jacks so probably a push for sales... As above the light jacks needed the damage boost and there were plenty of other casters who would use non-dervishes etc... So now you are trying to squeeze all heavy jacks into your infantry theme in order for the only useful benefit to work. Massively restricts the number of jacks who can benefit from it anyway and the Avatar is a non-event... Crusaders, a ten point heavy, cheapest in faction, goes all the way to pow 25, mat 11 under Amon, all for the pleasure of one man dying next to him. I don't think we have a problem honestly. For me the lights are usually the ones setting up the synergy anyway, mat7 base dervishes and boosted hits from other lights is the starter for the crusader main course. Yeah I suspect Amon will still run nicely with the list - it will be whether it outplays CM with idrians (Sanctifiers still an option?). I kind wanted the benefits for other casters who won't want to run a tonne of heavies most likely but would like their devout/BoV/vigilant or even dervish to have some gain from the theme... otherwise it literally just becomes a free points theme without forcing heavies into your list.
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Fire Step
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Post by Fire Step on Sept 30, 2017 11:52:47 GMT
Huh. The changes to the deliverers from CID doesn't appear to be live. This saddens me.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on Sept 30, 2017 11:54:31 GMT
Huh. The changes to the deliverers from CID doesn't appear to be live. This saddens me. They'll be released when Christmas CID updates are released. I'd expect them in about November.
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