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Post by punk on Sept 30, 2017 1:01:29 GMT
It's just 1 beast point away from a free solo, but not sure what to swap - 1 gorax and 1 Argus Add 2nd Pureblood, 3 pts from the free 4th card adds to the 14 above to make up the 17 needed for pureblood. You're welcome
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 30, 2017 1:05:54 GMT
You could replace an argus with a scarsfell. That seems like the easiest solution. One thing I like about Kaya 3 with stalkers is they can go at the end of a synergy chain, kill something at full fury, sprint back near some stones, and benefit from concealment and or the feat while def 15 (17 under feat) birds that can dodge.
She is basically a better Kromac 2 which makes me sad. But I am gonna be fiddling around with this list for Big Mac
Kromac 2 -Stalker -Ghetorix -Pureblood -Pureblood -Argus -Argus -Gorax -Gorax 2 Wayfaerers 2 Shifting Stones Gobber chef
I am considering trying to make the second pureblood into a stalker but I am gonna try with the purebloods first and see if I like it. The sprays will really help on the approach and can clear out infantry screens incredibly well. Ghetorix can remove heavies easily (potentially 2 on feat turn and with primal) and then sit after feat at arm 21 and Def 14with spiny growth.
I am also considering this list: Baldur2: -Megs -Feral -Pureblood -Pureblood -Stalker 2 Wayfarers 2 Shifting Stones Hutchuck
Back to the warpwolf brick of amr 20+ def 14+ no knockdown Heavies. Don't think it has too many legs in Sr2017 but it could be super fun to play at least!
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 30, 2017 3:08:44 GMT
With a masters event in October here, I really don't know if I can come up with a list I'm happy with in time, especially considering how much is sold out at the moment. Thinking of trying something like this: Circle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Call of the Wild (Kaya 3) Kaya the Wildheart [+27] - Gorax Rager [7] - Gorax Rager [7] - Pureblood Warpwolf [17] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Scarsfell Griffon [8] - Warpwolf Stalker [19] - Warpwolf Stalker [19] - Wild Argus [7] - Wild Argus [7] - Druid Wilder [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Shifting Stones [3] It's just 1 beast point away from a free solo, but not sure what to swap Just try: Kaya3 -wilder -gorax -scarsfell -scarsfell -scarsfell -scarsfell -scarsfell -pureblood -pureblood -stalker wayfarer wayfarer shiftings + ua You can cut stones ua and upgrade a pure to stalker. In this theme you want to abuse free elusive and sprint. I'm not sure this kind of list works in sr 2017 with ctrl 12" tought. And you are running a melee force without treath extender outside hunter mark. This mean isn't viable into Amon.
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Post by elshinare on Sept 30, 2017 6:20:25 GMT
Just curious in these griffon spam lists, would Una1 be worth taking as a free solo? or are her abilities just worthless for most lists?
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Post by Forsaken on Sept 30, 2017 10:23:57 GMT
I think Una1 is just outdistanced by her "battle group" too easily and doesn't do enough for them besides.
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Post by Guest on Sept 30, 2017 11:38:47 GMT
How are supposed to deliver those living beasts without sentry stones. I cannot think of a faction with lower threat rangens that circle for the life of me.
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 30, 2017 12:35:47 GMT
How are supposed to deliver those living beasts without sentry stones. I cannot think of a faction with lower threat rangens that circle for the life of me. Def 15 Birdies with dodge and stealth in Mass make for a solid screen to deliver the Heavies. Other factions with jack themes have been doing fine without a dedicated screen. I think we will figure it out. There's always the merc/minion option too!
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Post by rezfon on Sept 30, 2017 12:56:44 GMT
How are supposed to deliver those living beasts without sentry stones. I cannot think of a faction with lower threat rangens that circle for the life of me. Def 15 Birdies with dodge and stealth in Mass make for a solid screen to deliver the Heavies. Other factions with jack themes have been doing fine without a dedicated screen. I think we will figure it out. There's always the mercy option too! also if they have plenty anti stealth, you can also give them concealment
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 30, 2017 14:19:19 GMT
How are supposed to deliver those living beasts without sentry stones. I cannot think of a faction with lower threat rangens that circle for the life of me. Def 15 Birdies with dodge and stealth in Mass make for a solid screen to deliver the Heavies. Other factions with jack themes have been doing fine without a dedicated screen. I think we will figure it out. There's always the merc/minion option too! Usually those faction have superlong treathrange, or arm 20 countercharging things, or mine servitors or run shooting army
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Post by macdaddy on Sept 30, 2017 15:17:55 GMT
Not all the time. And to be honest all those can be countered with some strong tactical counterplay. Scarsfells are really hard to hit with unboosted countercharges and the mines will die to a charging Scarsfells who can repo with Kaya or Sprint with Una.
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Post by jisidro on Sept 30, 2017 19:51:24 GMT
What threat extenders do we have besides Hunter's Mark?
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Post by Lord_Randall on Sept 30, 2017 20:46:00 GMT
What threat extenders do we have besides Hunter's Mark? mirage, tk, warpath, dogpile, bradigus and Una2 feats. Loki and gallows if you count drag-like effect.
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Post by rezfon on Oct 11, 2017 23:26:05 GMT
So had my second outing with Kaya 3 a few hours ago.
My list was:
Kaya 3 - Druid Wilder - Stalker - Stalker - Pureblood - Gorax - Scarsfell - Scarsfell - Scarsfell - Scarsfell - Scarsfell Wayfarer Wayfarer Shifting Stones
I played against grymkin old witch that had about 50 models with her. I ignored most of the infantry due to their spacing, took out my opponents beasts so he couldn't transfer, then tele killed old witch with a stalker and shifting stones while sitting at mat 9 P+S 23. If I wanted something dead that game and it was in range, it died no questions asked. I like how the list was entirely stealthed turn 1 -> 2 except for the pureblood and the druid wilder because of fog of war. Def 16 minimum on non shifting stones on feat turn was amazing, only lost one griffon feat turn. My plan for turn 3 was to pull from the warpwolves, upkeep synergy and risk frenzy with griffons. If they frenzied it would still ramp up synergy.
I used to play kromac 2 quite a bit, but he was just lacking oomph. Kaya 3 has sky rocketed to my favourite warlock, she's fun to play and gets around all my annoyances with kromac 2. I can't see myself wanting to use Una2 though. Def 17 griffons with free dodge + p+s 23 stalkers is hard to resist.
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 12, 2017 3:06:29 GMT
Yeah Kromac 2 really needs a Damage or defensive buff for every turnto compete with kaya3. Right now he is slow, Hard to deliver, and does little outside of Feat Turn. He probably could use some durability changes as well considering how everyone else’s beat stick caster are starting to become monsters. Borka 2, Baranabus, Child. All of them play front and center and do a lor for thier army at the same time. Kromac 2 really needs more.
Still love him to death though. Just wish he preformed better. But it’s hard to compete against a synergy caster.
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Post by jisidro on Oct 12, 2017 9:06:03 GMT
Hit buff alone isn't enough...
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