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Post by Kibasreign on Mar 17, 2017 21:27:49 GMT
Reading the primal shock (Kromac 2) rules it doesn't sound like you need LOS for Kromac to use primal shock on an enemy model. Is this correct?
I see 3 options:
1) Kromac needs LOS
2) The beast needs LOS given its the point of origin
3) neither need LOS as it just says "target model and make a magic attack against it"
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Post by Kibasreign on Mar 19, 2017 16:35:05 GMT
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Post by radamanthys on Mar 19, 2017 19:01:00 GMT
I think kromac dont need los with bg but the warbeast need los with the enemy
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 20, 2017 15:54:06 GMT
Kromac Needs LoS to the targeted model. Kromac does not need LoS to the beast that is the origin. Beast that is the origin must have LoS to the targeted model
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Post by Kibasreign on Mar 20, 2017 18:30:57 GMT
Kromac Needs LoS to the targeted model. Kromac does not need LoS to the beast that is the origin. Beast that is the origin must have LoS to the targeted model So both the beast and Kromac need LOS? That's seems a little much... Not that I'm saying you are wrong. It just makes the spell seem super hard to use. |
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 20, 2017 19:00:15 GMT
Kromac Needs LoS to the targeted model. Kromac does not need LoS to the beast that is the origin. Beast that is the origin must have LoS to the targeted model So both the beast and Kromac need LOS? That's seems a little much... Not that I'm saying you are wrong. It just makes the spell seem super hard to use. Basically it works like this: Step 1: Declare Spell Step 2: Choose a Model in Kromacs BG in his Control Area (LoS not needed) Step 3: Choose a targeted Model with Kromac this requires LoS as kromac needs to draw LoS to target the Model. Step 3.5: the targetedmodel must also be within 8" of the beast who is treated as the Point of origin of the spell. Since the spell is originating from the beast, LoS must be drawn from the Point of Origin to Kromacs Target. Both the Point of origin AND Kromac have to have LoS for the model you want hit by the spell to be legally targeted. |
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Post by bilbostomper on Mar 26, 2017 13:16:13 GMT
The first answer was the correct one. Since the warbeast is the point of origin of the attack, the warbeast needs LOS to the target and Kromac does not. Kromac also does not need LOS to the warbeast, since he's just selecting it, not targeting.
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Post by Kibasreign on Mar 26, 2017 18:24:18 GMT
The first answer was the correct one. Since the warbeast is the point of origin of the attack, the warbeast needs LOS to the target and Kromac does not. Kromac also does not need LOS to the warbeast, since he's just selecting it, not targeting. This was my understanding as well. I just wanted to verify. Thanks |
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 27, 2017 11:56:56 GMT
The first answer was the correct one. Since the warbeast is the point of origin of the attack, the warbeast needs LOS to the target and Kromac does not. Kromac also does not need LOS to the warbeast, since he's just selecting it, not targeting. Doesn't kromac need LoS to target the enemy model though? |
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Post by radamanthys on Mar 27, 2017 13:40:34 GMT
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Post by rezfon on Mar 27, 2017 14:23:56 GMT
The first answer was the correct one. Since the warbeast is the point of origin of the attack, the warbeast needs LOS to the target and Kromac does not. Kromac also does not need LOS to the warbeast, since he's just selecting it, not targeting. Doesn't kromac need LoS to target the enemy model though? On page 40 under point of origin, it says that line of sight and attack modifiers are checked from the point of origin. It uses channeling as an example as well, since the warlock is still the spellcaster, but the arc node would be the point of origin. |
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Post by bilbostomper on Mar 27, 2017 15:30:55 GMT
Hilariously, when the Mauler and Kromac is on one side of the house and the Feral is on the other, you can't use the spell. I've had that situation happen to me.  Lagre |
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Post by macdaddy on Mar 27, 2017 18:21:39 GMT
My bad guys didn't realize the beast was all you needed for LiS!
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