khazore
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Playing Menoth Casually since Mark 1.
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Post by khazore on Mar 13, 2017 15:31:04 GMT
Hey Folks,
So I've been playing with the idea to either pick up Retribution or Cygnar. Will Cygnar won, and I'm wondering if I can get some ideas from you all on which casters I should pick up first and some general list ideas. I'm going to be buying the whole range at some point, but for now I have/own nothing Cygnarian and would like very much for your thoughts on how I should proceed.
Thanks!
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Post by Aegis on Mar 13, 2017 15:45:09 GMT
I'll start with the Battlebox. It's cheap and will give you a lot of things that you will need anyway. Maddox is also a great caster to start, not too complicate but competitive and that feels a lot like Cygnar.
Then you'll need the staples: Squire, Arlan Strangewayes, Journeyman Warcaster.
After that I would buy some warjacks and magnetize them, so you have a lot of different options to experiment with. The best would be a Stormclad and an Avenger/Centurion/Hammersmith magnetized.
If you are able to grab an old MK2 battlebox it could also be another good buy, since Stryker1 is another good caster to begin, Charger will be very useful, and the Lancer can be easily converted to Thorn.
After that, you pretty much have the bases to expand how you want.
Other good casters to grab early are Nemo3 (not complicated but powerful) and maybe Haley2 if you like control.
As for units, at the moment you either skip them and go for Heavy Metal (Jack theme) and so you invest on more jacks (a Defender/Cyclone/Ironclad kit will also be very handy, expecially if you also magnetized the Ironclads body from the Battlebox/es to get even more options), or go for Stormlances and Trechers. Other unit range from high situational to very bad at the moment sadly, even if things like Stormblades and Sword Knights will come handy for some lists.
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khazore
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Post by khazore on Mar 15, 2017 12:57:19 GMT
Thank you for the reply. appreciate it.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Mar 15, 2017 19:35:58 GMT
Welcome to Cygnar! We are pretty awesome, so its no wonder you picked us over those pointy ears. Aegis covered all of the basic stuff to look into when starting out. If you'd like, you could talk about some of the stuff you enjoy in Menoth, or any other play style you'd like to try out, then we could point you towards something in the faction that would cover that. We have lots of casters and a good number of them are strong and fun.
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Post by silent on Mar 16, 2017 14:23:25 GMT
Funnily enough, I'm actually doing the opposite: I've played Cygnar for almost two years now and I've just started Picking up the Protectorate. I hope you enjoy your time with the Thunderchicken! I've found that I use my Stormclad and Defenders more than anything else, and I've almost always found a way to squeeze a hunter into a list. If you get the battle box, the warcaster is a storm knight model, so any Stormclad activating close by will get a free focus.
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khazore
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Post by khazore on Mar 22, 2017 12:40:58 GMT
silent, that's good to know, thank you for that bit of rules information. Never even considered it. Stormsmith Dropout, Thanks. Well to be honest, MK2 I was a huge fan of Kreoss 2 and his Mass amounts of weapon masters. I love Exemplars and my original colour scheme was Templars. Now I have a beautiful Blue/White/Yellow going on. Anyways in MK3 I am currently playing the hell out of Kreoss 3 and Vengers, I love knights. Also Playing Feora 3 and Thyra.
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khazore
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Post by khazore on Mar 22, 2017 13:16:52 GMT
Aegis ,
Thanks again for all you help in the first response I appreciate it greatly.
What I've picked up so far from Sales/Trades going on and stuff I had kicking in a box in storage.
Maddox Battle Box Murder Ponies Storm Lances (1 Unit) 1 Full unit of Stormblades with UA and 3 Weapon Attachments 1 Full Unit of Stormblades 1 Full Unit of Stormguards 1 Min unit of Trenchers with UA 1 Full unit of Long gunners with UA 1 Full unit of Mechaniks I had a unit of Gun Mages(But I am missing two of the models somehow) Black 13th. Stormsmith Storm Tower
Arlan Strangeways Maxwell Finn Gun Mage Captain Adept Harlan Vesh 2 Journeyman Casters Allison Jakes Laddermore Stormblade Captain 3 Stormsmith StormCallers Viktor Pendrake
Stryker 2 and 3 Nemo 1,2,3 Maddox Jeremiah Kraye Kara Sloan Siege
Squire Sylys Reinholt Madelyn
Avenger Centurion 2x Chargers Cyclone Defender Firefly Gallant 2x Hunters Ol'Rowdy 2 x Stormclads Triumph 2x Lancer 2x Hammersmith
out of all that mess I'm trying to build an interesting list. Thoughts/Crits?
| Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division
(Maddox 1) Major Beth Maddox [+30] |
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[/b] [*]Stormclad [18][*]Squire [0][/ul]Captain Arlan Strangewayes [4]Journeyman Warcaster [4][/b] [/ul]Major Katherine Laddermore [8]Storm Lances ( max) [20]Stormblade Infantry [10][/font]][/b] [*]Stormblade Infantry Storm Gunner (2) [4][/ul]Stormblade Infantry [10]Effigy of Valor (Steamroller) [0][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Mar 22, 2017 13:44:03 GMT
Aegis ,
Thanks again for all you help in the first response I appreciate it greatly.
What I've picked up so far from Sales/Trades going on and stuff I had kicking in a box in storage.
Maddox Battle Box Murder Ponies Storm Lances (1 Unit) 1 Full unit of Stormblades with UA and 3 Weapon Attachments 1 Full Unit of Stormblades 1 Full Unit of Stormguards 1 Min unit of Trenchers with UA 1 Full unit of Long gunners with UA 1 Full unit of Mechaniks I had a unit of Gun Mages(But I am missing two of the models somehow) Black 13th. Stormsmith Storm Tower
Arlan Strangeways Maxwell Finn Gun Mage Captain Adept Harlan Vesh 2 Journeyman Casters Allison Jakes Laddermore Stormblade Captain 3 Stormsmith StormCallers Viktor Pendrake
Stryker 2 and 3 Nemo 1,2,3 Maddox Jeremiah Kraye Kara Sloan Siege
Squire Sylys Reinholt Madelyn
Avenger Centurion 2x Chargers Cyclone Defender Firefly Gallant 2x Hunters Ol'Rowdy 2 x Stormclads Triumph 2x Lancer 2x Hammersmith
out of all that mess I'm trying to build an interesting list. Thoughts/Crits?
| Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division
(Maddox 1) Major Beth Maddox [+30] |
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[/b] [*]Stormclad [18][*]Squire [0][/ul]Captain Arlan Strangewayes [4]Journeyman Warcaster [4][/b] [/ul]Major Katherine Laddermore [8]Storm Lances ( max) [20]Stormblade Infantry [10][/font]][/b] [*]Stormblade Infantry Storm Gunner (2) [4][/ul]Stormblade Infantry [10]Effigy of Valor (Steamroller) [0][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]
[/p][/quote] Looks like storm division as it was meant to be. No armor cannot be pierced by your list.
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Post by Aegis on Mar 22, 2017 14:30:08 GMT
Well, you have a very good base of models to experiment with. The only thing I notice is that you have 57 points of stormknights (5 of those free). If you manage to add something, you could hit the third free model. As an example, if you remove one gunner and add the Stormblade Capitain, you could unlock the third free solo like this: Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division (Maddox 1) Major Beth Maddox [+30] [*]Stormclad [18] [*]Stormclad [18] [*]Squire [ 0] Captain Arlan Strangewayes [ 0] Journeyman Warcaster [ 0] [*]Charger [9] Major Katherine Laddermore [8] Storm Lances (max) [20] Stormblade Infantry [10] [*]Stormblade Infantry Officer & Standard [5] [*]Stormblade Infantry Storm Gunner [2] Stormblade Infantry [10] Stormblade Captain [5] Effigy of Valor (Steamroller) [0] Since you have that many Stormknights, a Captain is likely better than an extra gunner, so why not? I'll also suggest to go for Firefly instead of Charger on the JR in a list with that many electric hits. A list including the Firefly could be something like this: Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division (Maddox 1) Major Beth Maddox [+30] [*]Stormclad [18] [*]Centurion[17] [*]Squire [ 0] Captain Arlan Strangewayes [ 0] Journeyman Warcaster [ 0] [*]Firefly [8] Major Katherine Laddermore [8] Storm Lances (max) [20] Stormblade Infantry [10] [*]Stormblade Infantry Officer & Standard [5] [*]Stormblade Infantry Storm Gunners x2 [4] Stormblade Infantry [10] Stormblade Captain [5] Effigy of Valor (Steamroller) [0] That said, all this is counting only the models you already own. Sadly, at the moment a second min Stormlances would likely be better than the second Stormblade unit, but consider that Stormlances are the boogeyman of the moment so a nerf may arrive, so it's up to you if you want to risk buying a second unit or not.
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khazore
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Playing Menoth Casually since Mark 1.
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Post by khazore on Mar 22, 2017 15:05:06 GMT
@ Aegis , I've taken your comments and edited my first list and created the second list to play with and try out which I like more. Thank you for the suggestions, again appreciate it. Now to decided on a pairing caster. I love the look of Stryker 2 and 3, But someone suggested I look at Hayley 2 as my pairing as she works well with Dynamo. And as for a Second Unit of Storm Lances. I might do it just cause I love Mounted Cav units. in Menoth I had Double Vengers and Gravus with Kreoss 3. Loved the speed. In all honesty. My feelings after reading all the cards and how some units interact with each other. I believe in my own personal Opinion it'll be Laddermore that's Nerfed. +2 to hit and damage while in Command is a tad excessive.
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