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Post by kommandantgrizzwar on Mar 12, 2017 5:43:28 GMT
Help me build an OP Sorcha1 list. This is what I have so far... What do you guys think?
War Room Army
Khador - Sorcha1
Theme: No Theme Selected 76 / 75 Army
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Kommander Sorscha - WJ: +29 - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 4 - Behemoth - PC: 25 (Battlegroup Points Used: 25) - Grolar - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4)
Kell Bailoch - PC: 5 Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - PC: 7 Alten Ashley - PC: 6 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 4 Ogrun Bokur - PC: 5 Koldun Lord - PC: 4
Greylord Outriders - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20 Greylord Ternion - Leader & 2 Grunts: 7
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GENERATED : 03/12/2017 00:42:27 BUILD ID : 2037.17-02-13
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Growl
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Post by Growl on Mar 12, 2017 12:00:39 GMT
I've never really liked the Outriders or cavalry in general with Sorscha, primarily I think because they block her LOS and therefore limit her FEAT. Aside from LOS, they are also a lot of points which could used instead for Widowmakers or Rifle Corps. I think the Koldun Lord becomes less valuable without the Outriders, so I would take him out too. The Grolar is good, but with points already being tight, I don't know if you don't get better value and versatility from a Kodiak, venting steam and smash and grabbing. I used to love my Ocean's list, but recently have been trying out, with some success, a melee focused version of a pSorscha list. I need to get some battle reports up soon, but so far it has worked out.
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Mar 12, 2017 12:47:00 GMT
I used to run a list like this in Mk2:
(Sorscha 1) Kommander Sorscha [+29] - Beast 09 [21] - Berserker [9] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] - Greylord Escort [3] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] - Greylord Escort [3] Iron Fang Pikemen (max) [15] - Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard [4] Iron Fang Kovnik [4] Fenris [9] Yuri the Axe [6] Manhunter [4]
It was really nasty, especially against infantry. Sorscha would feat early, and would hopefully be up on attrition. It generally did quite well. I think at the moment, however, I'm going to try her in theme. Looking back, the winter guard theme is very much like her mark 2 theme force.
As for the OP Force, I know it's a point over. Past that I'm not certain! I don't normally run that many mercenaries. I'm also not certain about the outriders, but that's more because Sorscha doesn't do much for them but make high def infantry easier to hit! Fog of war won't stack with their innate concealment.
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Post by kommandantgrizzwar on Mar 12, 2017 15:32:01 GMT
In thinking something like this...
War Room Army
Khador - Sorcha1
Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army
Kommander Sorscha - WJ: +29 - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 4 - Behemoth - PC: 25 (Battlegroup Points Used: 25) - Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4)
Kell Bailoch - PC: 5 Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - PC: 7 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 4 Ogrun Bokur - PC: 5
Widowmaker Scouts - Leader & 3 Grunts: 8 Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 13 - Greylord Escort - PC: 3 Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 13 - Greylord Escort - PC: 3
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GENERATED : 03/12/2017 11:28:27 BUILD ID : 2037.17-02-13
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wendan
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Post by wendan on Mar 12, 2017 15:37:20 GMT
I think that looks really good! I'd run that a few times and see what happens!
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Post by borderprince on Mar 13, 2017 7:14:08 GMT
Big point for the revised list, Doomreavers without pathfinder can be very unhappy Doomreavers.
I'd ditch the Escorts and replace them with Saxon Orrick. He's really in the list as a support solo, but if you don't need pathfinder he can do some work with his accurate rifle. You can add a Tinker to make up the points and to keep the jacks going a bit longer.
The other thing I'd seriously consider is replacing the Bokur with Orin Midwinter. My experience is that Sorcha's defence is usually enough to protect her from most shooting (so don't play her into Caine2 or Sloan), but there are spells which can really ruin her day. You don't want a Stranglehold on Behemoth or a Hellmouth near Sorcha for example.
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