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Post by Guest on Aug 30, 2017 22:28:50 GMT
The Krielstone Bearer Himself have arm 15 and cannot self sacrifice the Magic Bullet hit. Meaning; If he dies (to the spell), the Trollbloods player will have to field promote a new guy in the unit to Krielstone Bearer, at which point the aura goes down (inactive). The amount of Fury on the stone does not add to Armor, only the range of the aura. The bonus it self is a static +2 ARM. Back to Orion Spellpiercer also does not circumvent Grymkin stuff: Death Knell (esentially the same as Krielstone) and Skin & Moans bonus ARM from Corpses. I see it mainly a good counter to Arcane Shield and Menoth choir. Any other good applications?
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Post by claptrap on Aug 30, 2017 23:56:36 GMT
Defender's Ward, Deceleration
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Post by javaman21011 on Aug 31, 2017 0:51:00 GMT
Does the "not from an attack" negate tough rolls?
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Post by Guest on Aug 31, 2017 8:34:07 GMT
Ahh yes. Sevy you see once in a while. Decel, I don't see that much, but good point claptrap javaman21011: No, he still gets his tough roll.
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Post by themusicalcake on Aug 31, 2017 16:58:59 GMT
Crazy thought: what if we're not getting inherent Repo on Orion because his bonded jack is gonna grant it to him?
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Post by javaman21011 on Aug 31, 2017 19:30:25 GMT
Crazy thought: what if we're not getting inherent Repo on Orion because his bonded jack is gonna grant it to him? What bonded jack?
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Post by themusicalcake on Aug 31, 2017 19:54:17 GMT
Crazy thought: what if we're not getting inherent Repo on Orion because his bonded jack is gonna grant it to him? What bonded jack? Some sort of surprise Christmas gift, maybe? They're refusing to give it to him and not citing a reason, not even saying "he's too strong with it". Why? There's got to be something, and if they're not telling us why maybe they can't yet.
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Post by Guest on Aug 31, 2017 20:51:16 GMT
Convergence dont have bonded jacks we have interface nodes not cortexes...would be wierd fluff wise
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Post by Guest on Aug 31, 2017 22:10:27 GMT
+1
Besides, did'nt they allready spoil all the christmas releases? (aka Orion)
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Post by javaman21011 on Aug 31, 2017 23:29:19 GMT
Some sort of surprise Christmas gift, maybe? They're refusing to give it to him and not citing a reason, not even saying "he's too strong with it". Why? There's got to be something, and if they're not telling us why maybe they can't yet. Was Will saying something on a facebook thread? I'm still confused... we don't have bonded jacks. Where'd you hear that term related to CoC?
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Hjard
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Post by Hjard on Sept 1, 2017 8:16:34 GMT
The "Interface Nodes cannot create bonds" thing is just a fluff description. Nice explanation that there are no character vectors for now, but no real hindrance. Call it "Prototype [Syntherion] - Only Syntherion can activate the full potential of this model" and you get the same thing as a bonded Warjack, when they finally decide to give us rules for Syntherions prototype Assimilator, that was mentioned somewhere in the fluff ages ago. Or the same thing for Orion / any other CoC Caster.
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Post by rustedgear on Sept 1, 2017 12:36:22 GMT
So, I got to try Orion v Karchev last night. Not a great match up for Orion. We spent some time talking about Monitors with Orion. Initially his kit/feat seems to want them. After loosely running the math, though they don't seem nearly as impressive. One shot per monitor means they just dont kill things unless you field 4-5 of them.
Vs armour 20 unboosted they do no damage. If they crit they do 3-4. Boosting for 7. Then feat turn for 10-11 damage per shot. So you need 4 Monitors, all rolling crit brutal on feat turn to kill one Khador heavy.
Seems better than normal for Monitors, but still not great.
Is Orion with Monitors like putting lipstick on a pig?
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Post by Guest on Sept 1, 2017 13:18:14 GMT
That is what I was trying to point out earlier! I think the Monitor is too expensive. Look at the Trollblood Blitzer for example: Also 16 points, but with 1d3 shots (POW13), range 10. Fury mechanic and a situational animus. NEVER gets taken. Why? I think it's the prize tag. Look at the Legion Seraph: Similar gun/role to play in the army. gets taken ALL THE TIME. Why? only 14 points, essential animus etc. My point: Balance it out a bit PP, please Put Monitor in CID... On a site note: Any thoughts on the new theme with Orion? I think it is a shame only some dudes get advance move, but maybe vengeance is a good enough buff for Perforators? Or the fact that 4 Enigma Foundries can support them.
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Post by danfromchicago on Sept 1, 2017 13:42:36 GMT
So, I got to try Orion v Karchev last night. Not a great match up for Orion. We spent some time talking about Monitors with Orion. Initially his kit/feat seems to want them. After loosely running the math, though they don't seem nearly as impressive. One shot per monitor means they just dont kill things unless you field 4-5 of them. Vs armour 20 unboosted they do no damage. If they crit they do 3-4. Boosting for 7. Then feat turn for 10-11 damage per shot. So you need 4 Monitors, all rolling crit brutal on feat turn to kill one Khador heavy. Seems better than normal for Monitors, but still not great. Is Orion with Monitors like putting lipstick on a pig? I know it seems counterintuitive but dice-7>0. In this case it's pretty close to 1. And honestly, I think Orion's feat is much better in melee than at range. At least for jacks. And the Monitor has sustained attack.
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Post by rustedgear on Sept 1, 2017 13:54:53 GMT
... honestly, I think Orion's feat is much better in melee than at range. At least for jacks. .. I think this is true.
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