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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Aug 24, 2017 18:58:06 GMT
Several changes coming to Cygnar. Several buffs, and one nerf.
I'm excited for new Kraye.
H2 nerf was probably warrented, but I am pretty upset that the CID process was totally bypassed.
As she is/will be, she still seems strong into armies with low model counts. She can play with Storm Division to handle lots of infantry. As far as the severity of the nerfing goes, I am pleased that PP only nerfed one of Haley's big 3 assets (feat, TK, and Thorn).
And, hey, maybe people will stop complaining so much about Cygnar... just kidding. As if that could ever happen.
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Post by chewie on Aug 24, 2017 19:23:51 GMT
I'm excited for new Kraye. Holy crap, yes. He looks super fun. H2 nerf was probably warrented, but I am pretty upset that the CID process was totally bypassed. As she is/will be, she still seems strong into armies with low model counts. She can play with Storm Division to handle lots of infantry. As far as the severity of the nerfing goes, I am pleased that PP only nerfed one of Haley's big 3 assets (feat, TK, and Thorn). Yeah, kind of a bummer this wasn't pushed through a CID, but I can understand that they probably wanted to address it before WTC and the CID would've made that impossible. That being said, I very much think that Haley2 still has game... just not against so many types of lists. To be honest, I feel like she's much more in line with other casters in that they have certain matchups they really like to see (low model count armies for Haley2) and matchups they don't really want to see (gunlines + dude spam for Haley2). It's as if they pushed her to a spot where she's now an option, not a damn near requirement :-P. |
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Aug 24, 2017 19:36:24 GMT
Chewie
Don't get me wrong. H2 is still very strong. I don't really object to the change itself.
Cygnar might be entering a bright new age where pairing isn't just Haley2+whoever.
I'm curious to find out where the other casters fall now. Is H2 still top dog? Or will H3 take the throne?
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Post by chewie on Aug 24, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
Chewie Don't get me wrong. H2 is still very strong. I don't really object to the change itself. Cygnar might be entering a bright new age where pairing isn't just Haley2+whoever. I'm curious to find out where the other casters fall now. Is H2 still top dog? Or will H3 take the throne? Is it still too early to hand "top dog" to Kraye? Nah, I kid. I do think H3 is absolutely in the running, especially when the Gravedigger theme force lands. I'm just ecstatic to be in a place where it's not immediately apparent who's our best caster. OPTIONS. WE'VE GOT OPTIONS! |
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Aug 24, 2017 20:02:28 GMT
Did kraye end up not keeping his new full tilt spell? That's a little disappointing. It seems now that he doesn't have the speed to get the alpha it Wich is worrying as he had problems sustaining even when he got it in CID.
I'm so tired if Haley nerfs. At this point she's only a shadow of her former self. They could have at least give back one of the other parts of her feat if they were going to cut it down to so few models.
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Post by anderfreak on Aug 24, 2017 20:08:23 GMT
Did kraye end up not keeping his new full tilt spell? They just changed the name to horsepower. Probably keeping the name Full Tilt in reserve for a spell more closely matching its Mk2 properties. |
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Post by chewie on Aug 24, 2017 20:12:44 GMT
Did kraye end up not keeping his new full tilt spell? That's a little disappointing. It seems now that he doesn't have the speed to get the alpha it Wich is worrying as he had problems sustaining even when he got it in CID. How so? He still has a 3" speed buff for charges, which I assume is what you need to get the alpha, right? Sure, it's not a flat 3" speed buff, but it serves towards that end well enough right? |
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Post by bloodsplatterartist on Aug 24, 2017 20:53:59 GMT
Did kraye end up not keeping his new full tilt spell? That's a little disappointing. It seems now that he doesn't have the speed to get the alpha it Wich is worrying as he had problems sustaining even when he got it in CID. How so? He still has a 3" speed buff for charges, which I assume is what you need to get the alpha, right? Sure, it's not a flat 3" speed buff, but it serves towards that end well enough right? Missed horsepower when I read the insider which is why I was confused. |
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Aug 25, 2017 1:09:53 GMT
I don't want haley to be in CID. Pp don't need to ask our permission to change the game and some topics are just too emotion charged to get good feedback through the internet.
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Post by danfromchicago on Aug 25, 2017 1:47:19 GMT
I don't want haley to be in CID. Pp don't need to ask our permission to change the game and some topics are just too emotion charged to get good feedback through the internet. 100% agree |
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Post by bluebarren on Aug 25, 2017 16:43:02 GMT
Anyone know when this goes live?
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Post by ambusam on Aug 25, 2017 19:15:55 GMT
I'm excited about those Triumph tweaks. That could give my Darius list a nice boost.
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