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Post by eggory on Aug 9, 2017 14:53:03 GMT
Hey all,
Looking at the SR17 win rate thread I noticed no one has made any report with Kreoss 2. Is anyone playing with him? If so what kind of list and how are your results? He looks like a solid caster for some knights exemplar and punchy jacks.
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Post by paradox on Aug 9, 2017 15:17:39 GMT
Hey all, Looking at the SR17 win rate thread I noticed no one has made any report with Kreoss 2. Is anyone playing with him? If so what kind of list and how are your results? He looks like a solid caster for some knights exemplar and punchy jacks. I think Kreoss2's main issue is that Vindictus does him better. |
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Post by Provengreil on Aug 9, 2017 15:21:55 GMT
Hey all, Looking at the SR17 win rate thread I noticed no one has made any report with Kreoss 2. Is anyone playing with him? If so what kind of list and how are your results? He looks like a solid caster for some knights exemplar and punchy jacks. I think Kreoss2's main issue is that Vindictus does him better. This. For all the general whining about high defense values, delivering every MAT 7 weaponmaster in your army is better than delivering 1/3 of them and autohitting.
Though I must say, watching KE's under K2 feat kill 4 infantry per dude (2 attacks, 2 cleaves) is amazing when you can pull it off.
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Kreoss 2
Aug 9, 2017 15:37:19 GMT
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 9, 2017 15:37:19 GMT
Yeah I do wish he helped our Knights more than vinny...he defaniteley needs a boost for delivering our dudes. Deceleration would be nice.
I don't think you get 4th attack on Feat Turn. Cleave only allows one attack to be generated by cleave per activation. But I am probably reading it wrong.
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Post by Provengreil on Aug 9, 2017 15:41:05 GMT
Yeah I do wish he helped our Knights more than vinny...he defaniteley needs a boost for delivering our dudes. Deceleration would be nice. I don't think you get 4th attack on Feat Turn. Cleave only allows one attack to be generated by cleave per activation. But I am probably reading it wrong. Attack, use cleave trigger, then feat attack is an entirely separate attack, which will generate its own cleave trigger. Pretty sure it works that way. I'll check my phone during lunch.
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Post by paradox on Aug 9, 2017 15:57:56 GMT
I don't know why they took Aegis and the elite cadre away. I'd give those back. It's a small step, but it helps. Also straight adding Deflection to his spells would be interesting. He could +4ARM swing a target that way. Sacrosanct is a crappier version of Penitence, and Inviolable Resolve is a watered down Defender's Ward, so that would help make up these shortcomings. Maybe add Furious Charge to him, an farm it out to his forces? All of that may add up to something playable and mildly different from Vindy.
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Post by blakeh1 on Aug 9, 2017 16:20:48 GMT
Also, why did they take away his armor pierce attack?
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Post by Demeritus on Aug 9, 2017 16:37:53 GMT
You can only have up to 3 attacks on the feat turn. Cleave specifies that you can only gain one additional attack from Cleave each activation.
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Post by Alealexi on Aug 9, 2017 17:25:14 GMT
They should change sacrosanct to damage by an enemy model instead of destroyed by an enemy warrior model. It is would make it more useful.
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Post by Provengreil on Aug 9, 2017 17:30:17 GMT
They should change sacrosanct to damage by an enemy model instead of destroyed by an enemy warrior model. It is would make it more useful. They should do that to most of the revenge mechanics in the army, honestly. It's a big part of why errants are considered such a weird fit: self-sac stops a bunch of our own stuff from working.
Also, I did check my phone and you only get 3 attacks. I shall submit to my penitence wracking post haste.
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Post by paradox on Aug 9, 2017 17:37:40 GMT
Also, why did they take away his armor pierce attack? That too. |
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Kreoss 2
Aug 9, 2017 17:40:36 GMT
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Post by Alealexi on Aug 9, 2017 17:40:36 GMT
They should change sacrosanct to damage by an enemy model instead of destroyed by an enemy warrior model. It is would make it more useful. They should do that to most of the revenge mechanics in the army, honestly. It's a big part of why errants are considered such a weird fit: self-sac stops a bunch of our own stuff from working.
Also, I did check my phone and you only get 3 attacks. I shall submit to my penitence wracking post haste.
I know it stops souls for High Reclaimer 1 & 2 but not for our Sanctifier & Reclaimer Gatekeeper. What else does it stop other than the already mentioned? |
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Post by Provengreil on Aug 9, 2017 17:45:28 GMT
They should do that to most of the revenge mechanics in the army, honestly. It's a big part of why errants are considered such a weird fit: self-sac stops a bunch of our own stuff from working.
Also, I did check my phone and you only get 3 attacks. I shall submit to my penitence wracking post haste.
I know it stops souls for High Reclaimer 1 & 2 but not for our Sanctifier & Reclaimer Gatekeeper. What else does it stop other than the already mentioned? Sacrosanct triggers, Righteous Vengeance, Blood of Martyrs, the KES/Kreoss 2 healing. Righteous Vengeance is the big one here. |
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Post by thelat on Aug 9, 2017 20:33:41 GMT
I like the idea of charging exemplars through exemplars.
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Aug 9, 2017 22:48:42 GMT
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 9, 2017 22:48:42 GMT
Here's hoping the 12 factions of Christmas lets us do a kreos 2 rework! and maybey...just maybey throw bastions and Cinerators in there too  |
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