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Post by Swampmist on Jul 27, 2017 21:41:37 GMT
The issue is that he wants both + idrians.
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Post by smartalek on Jul 27, 2017 21:49:32 GMT
Just wondering, what is HR fielding that wouldn't fit into Interdiction or Guardians? Exemplars seem good with him as well as Cleansers. The biggest reason he's in neither theme is so you can take both Cleansers and Exemplars. You also get the added benefit of Idrians when you're not committed to a theme (right now).
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Post by WantonRanger on Jul 27, 2017 21:50:25 GMT
The issue is that he wants both + idrians. well depending on whatever happens with Mercs theme addition... I can see the pasting of Idrians into basically 3/4 of our lists
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moquan
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Post by moquan on Jul 27, 2017 21:54:26 GMT
I guess roughly in order of popularity: Vanilla: High Reclaimer, Kreoss1 > Sev1 Creators Might: Amon, Sev2, > Kreoss1, Sev1 Interdiction: Harbinger (recently), Vindictus > Sev1, Kreoss3 Guardians: not really sure if there is much here... Again I feel like we havn't yet worked out our best combos but the above seems a reasonable summation of current attempts Just wondering, what is HR fielding that wouldn't fit into Interdiction or Guardians? Exemplars seem good with him as well as Cleansers. Basically Idrians. Knights, vengers, flamebringers, cleansers are also popular choices.
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Post by Swampmist on Jul 27, 2017 21:54:27 GMT
yeah, but currently he can't if it does happen, idrians+ ke+vengers will probably show up
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moquan
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Post by moquan on Jul 27, 2017 21:55:25 GMT
So this is what happens when you wait a few minutes to post
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 27, 2017 22:00:10 GMT
Based on my experience and observations I see the following becoming Top choices for competative lists:
Amon, just a fantastic caster and even if he can't score in SR2017 he plays a solid attrition game and contests well.
Sevy 2: I think he has an amazing toolkit and see him and the revelator making some nasty assasination gunlines.
Vindictus, Double Vengers, Exemplar theme. This list is disgusting in action. Honestly I've even had success with just the footsloggers too.
High Reclaimer: I still think he has a fantastic toolkit and should find his way into a good number of Pairings.
Some casters that I think can shake up your local meta:
Reznick 1, I have actually had some decent success with him into Cygnar and Cryx. Haven't tried him into ghost fleet yet though. He runs a mean line of jacks that say no to non magical guns or punish your opponent for Casting spells.
Thyra: In the flameguard theme she is pretty awesome and delivers Flame bringers well. I've watched her really tear up some lists in my local meta.
Casters I think Are not in a good place due to the current meta but are close to being a great choice:
Testamemt: Would be a fantastic attrition caster but with so many ways to negate his Soul collection and deny recursion he just falls flat in a lot of match ups and can't be relied on at events.
Durst: I had success with him in SR2016 but SR2017 has made me lose hope as he really needs to brick up to work and can't actively participate in scenario without losing durability for his army.
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d3z
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Post by d3z on Jul 27, 2017 23:51:40 GMT
IMO:
Amon + HR/Vinny/Harby. Amon is the primary question list, and you have a completely different skew as the backup. Many opponent's can't answer both questions in a pairing.
Amon + Sev2. Two jack-based lists but completely different arsenals. Odds are your opponent's jack skew drop will be handled by one of these two. Sev2 can also potentially replace Amon in pairing with an infantry skew.
Kreoss1 + generalist list. Drop the second list if your opponent can answer Kreoss1. Puryear has played this with Harby as the second list. The BE changes have put new life into this potential pairing.
Reznik2, F3ora, Sev1, and Thyra (maybe) are more at the middle of our pack but could be used in a pairing.
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doopsie
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Post by doopsie on Jul 28, 2017 0:43:32 GMT
At the moment, my personal pairing is Thyra (Vanilla, due to wanting both Daughters & KE) and Tristan2 (Creator's Might), with testing a Kreoss3 (Exemplar Interdiction, double Vengers. Sadly I don't have a second unit of Vengers, so it's proxy-only).
Granted, I like to being an odd duck.
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Jul 28, 2017 1:36:00 GMT
My money would be on Kreoss3 and Severius2.
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Post by Mydnight on Jul 28, 2017 2:08:04 GMT
Anyone tried Durst in interdiction? Blessed on his jacks are good, so is the deployment.
Bringing along a senny and KE/vengers is okay for him. He can protect them if needed.
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Post by demonic on Jul 28, 2017 3:19:42 GMT
You'll notice a lack of Feora speak... Feora's potential with guardians of the temple is actually top notch but it has a real learning curve, especially when you are going against armor heavy lists. Guardians is almost completely fire dependent, which makes tourny goers turn their head in spite; 1/3rd chance means 1/3rd chance of winning. Sevy 1&2, Amon... those are pretty much your top 3 casters when you are thinking of win ratio and how good of a list you can make with them.
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Post by WantonRanger on Jul 28, 2017 4:25:52 GMT
At the moment, my personal pairing is Thyra (Vanilla, due to wanting both Daughters & KE) and Tristan2 (Creator's Might), with testing a Kreoss3 (Exemplar Interdiction, double Vengers. Sadly I don't have a second unit of Vengers, so it's proxy-only). Granted, I like to being an odd duck. I just bought into double vengers/Kreoss3/Gravus >> just the mere fluff of basically an armored cavalry list of Knights makes me want this to work more than anything... I mean Vengers are just cooler than flamebringers but unfortunately flamerbringers got all the game.
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Post by Swampmist on Jul 28, 2017 4:27:37 GMT
to be fair, kreoss3 makes them stupidly good.
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Post by skormedlover87 on Jul 28, 2017 5:11:05 GMT
I mostly just lurk here but I can't for the life of me see why Reznik1 isn't seeing any love. He's got lots of surprise assassination power. He's got raw jack power. He is himself a brawler in SR2017.
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