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Post by LoS Jaden on Aug 24, 2017 23:02:44 GMT
Yeah I'm reading them. I responded to your dreamer stuff a while back but I haven't played her yet, I'm currently interested in the King of Nothing myself. You are the only one posting anything interesting related to this army right now except for my pictureless posts. So please know your stuff is appreciated. Since you did two posts about the king, I'll comment. I think he wants to run Bump at this point. You can still run a bunch of lights even with bump, Menagerie gives corpses which he doesn't need, menagerie uses gremlin swarms, which he also doesn't need. I don't think his arcana is worth building toward, it's just some extra damage sometimes so crabbits aren't really necessary to have in droves (so battlegroup should be a bunch of gorehounds and rattlers with maybe a rager for blessed, maybe one pair of crabbits... maybe). With bump your opponent doesn't have the option of removing all your troops so you're stuck walking everywhere, and they're not going to kill like 6 lights and a cagerager either. My goal has been trying to use sands to safely apply 4 armor swings, and I've been liking it so far. I was hoping to see you abuse his ability to sands of fate into strange places but not seeing it done much (which is the problem I had when I was running menagerie). I don't profess to have mastered him yet but he definitely feels better this way. It makes more sense too, you don't need a 4 armor swing when you have skin n moans... you need it when you have a bunch of pow 10-11 troops that want to be pow14-15. I have a friend who overly critiques any absolutes I say, so just to be a little outrageous, I'll say he's the most complicated caster in warmahordes right now. I'm not sure yet if that means he's got the potential to be the best, or if that means he's just really complicated and never going to be anything special beyond just being hard to play. I do have a lot of fun with him though. I saw your battle reports, I kept meaning to respond but totally just spaced. I'm intrigued by Bump with him, but I'm just never able to tear myself away from 4 sweet gremlin swarms. What is your current list like? I might be able to give it a whirl this week or early next. I have also noticed that I am unable to use the personal debuff as much as I would like to, which strikes me as a bit of a waste. I think either he or Haley 3 is the most complicated caster in the game. I'm not sold on him being the best, but I do think he is very good.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Aug 24, 2017 23:04:21 GMT
Reading your posts as well, and loving them. After the WTC i'll be playing more grymkin as well, so hope to share some insights then. Been liking the playstyle of the child. Here in the Netherlands I can't get the other casters yet but can't wait to hetmy hands on the dreamer and wanderer. Sweet! What are you playing for WTC? Dreamer has been an absolute blast, I really need to get more games in so I can finish off this King of Nothing series and try out the Wanderer some more. The one game I played with him I very much enjoyed.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Aug 24, 2017 23:05:34 GMT
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Post by LoS Jaden on Aug 24, 2017 23:09:36 GMT
You are very welcome Awesome to see the KoN in action. He continues to look like everything that Mohsar could have been I have to say, I think he does run better with dude spam though. Have you ever gotten his arm debuff aura to work without putting him in mortal peril? I feel like its really hard to apply that debuff actively throughout a game. His cloudlwall generation seems absolutely amazing and synergizes well with the faction. That obstruction seemed to save your bacon a bit this game. I am still convinced putting obstructions in the center of the table really favors factions like circle, legion, cryx, and anyone who can ignore it in ay meaningful way. I prefer to not put them there but whats your opinion? His -2 ARM ability was absolutely critical a couple of times over the three games I've played with him, but yeah in general I am finding it very difficult to apply. You may be right about dude spam, I keep hearing that and so...I will probably try it sometime soon here. It's just really hard to not get enrage and massive gremlin swarms. The obstruction was both a saving grace and really annoying at the same time; I think that obstructions and forests should be randomized for the central LoS blocking terrain. People should get used to playing with both because both will be used in events.
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Post by trollsareblue on Aug 25, 2017 0:39:29 GMT
I've been reading as well. Good food for thought, particularly since I haven't been able to get them on the table yet. Keep up the good work!
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Post by perilsensitive on Aug 25, 2017 3:05:59 GMT
I have been following these reps closely since there isn't alot out there right now. I just today finished assembling all my Kyn and can now put them on the table. I don't have a lot to add to the conversation tactically as of yet, but thanks for putting in the work!
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Post by utilitycookie on Aug 25, 2017 4:26:57 GMT
Reading your posts as well, and loving them. After the WTC i'll be playing more grymkin as well, so hope to share some insights then. Been liking the playstyle of the child. Here in the Netherlands I can't get the other casters yet but can't wait to hetmy hands on the dreamer and wanderer. Sweet! What are you playing for WTC? Dreamer has been an absolute blast, I really need to get more games in so I can finish off this King of Nothing series and try out the Wanderer some more. The one game I played with him I very much enjoyed. Will be playing khador. Which casters/ themes do you like the most? And have you been trying 2x outflanking murder crows yet? The games I played they worked wonders for me.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Aug 25, 2017 17:47:13 GMT
Sweet! What are you playing for WTC? Dreamer has been an absolute blast, I really need to get more games in so I can finish off this King of Nothing series and try out the Wanderer some more. The one game I played with him I very much enjoyed. Will be playing khador. Which casters/ themes do you like the most? And have you been trying 2x outflanking murder crows yet? The games I played they worked wonders for me. I've been exclusively playing Dreamer more or less, and now I'm exclusively playing the King of Nothing. I really need to put double Murder Crows on the table again, I've loved them the pair of games I've used them in. An unusual tangent from the usual model and battle report articles, I've put my thoughts about the three core kinds of Warmachine players down on "paper". I'm very interested in what you guys think about this topic, I'd like to do some more in depth analysis of the different player types and this is a good (Maybe?) place to start. www.loswarmachine.com/druiddice/2017/8/24/johnny-timmy-and-spike-player-psychographic-profiles
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Post by Voodoogk on Aug 25, 2017 20:40:38 GMT
Will be playing khador. Which casters/ themes do you like the most? And have you been trying 2x outflanking murder crows yet? The games I played they worked wonders for me. I've been exclusively playing Dreamer more or less, and now I'm exclusively playing the King of Nothing. I really need to put double Murder Crows on the table again, I've loved them the pair of games I've used them in. An unusual tangent from the usual model and battle report articles, I've put my thoughts about the three core kinds of Warmachine players down on "paper". I'm very interested in what you guys think about this topic, I'd like to do some more in depth analysis of the different player types and this is a good (Maybe?) place to start. www.loswarmachine.com/druiddice/2017/8/24/johnny-timmy-and-spike-player-psychographic-profilesI enjoyed our game together, I enjoy your battle reports. I'd avoid the amateur psychology, it's pretty offensive. Edit: After thinking about this for a bit I think you are owed some elaboration as you do not shy from using words. You make logical errors when you assume any one of those people is not a combination of all three of those people. Beyond that you make the error of not including everyone in your categorization because there are people that play the game for reasons you have not mentioned. It comes across as judgemental at best when you try to label people one of three things. You yourself fit into all three categories, your army is painted nicely, so I can infer you would not like it if your army was not painted nicely, therefore you probably care more about the prettiness of the game than some of your opponents might. I personally played with grey models for years because I really didn't care.. did that mean you're as you put it a fully painted Tommy to myself 3 years ago? Has that changed now that I also care that my models are painted at events? So as you can see it comes down to comparison basis on this one, and it's true with the other ones too. You're a competitive player, I've played you, you care about every possible measurement, playing a clean game, etc. And you are currently playing an unproven faction, changing lists, in an attempt to find a new and good list using interesting interactions. You forget rules interactions in your own battle reports. People migrate back and forth between some of these things through their life as well, I've seen people who are really competitive decide to take a break and paint or try to set up pretty matches, or take a break and screw around with new tech. I also have seen people just play this game because their friends come to the cons and they want to see them there and have fun. Beyond that to some people, like myself for instance, it's just plain offensive to try to jam them in such 2 dimensional categories. So keep it in your head if your head if you want, it's not helping you though. But please don't try to actually spread the practice of active stereotyping. Bleh, whatever apparently judging by your general forum version of this no one cares about being labeled.. label away, call me Jerry Tommy or Spike though and I will have shorter, less civil things to say than the above.
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Post by Rowdy Dragon on Aug 26, 2017 2:42:30 GMT
Bleh, whatever apparently judging by your general forum version of this no one cares about being labeled.. label away, call me Jerry Tommy or Spike though and I will have shorter, less civil things to say than the above. Relax will you? I like Red, Blue and Yellow, but I like Blue the most. Just like with the above a person can have an element of each, but identify primarily with one.
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Post by jisidro on Aug 31, 2017 13:54:02 GMT
... Bleh, whatever apparently judging by your general forum version of this no one cares about being labeled.. label away, call me Jerry Tommy or Spike though and I will have shorter, less civil things to say than the above. ... I took it for a simple content grab based on a popular article about gaming...
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 6, 2017 19:31:03 GMT
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Post by Voodoogk on Sept 6, 2017 20:46:37 GMT
Glad to see you liked it better with Bump, I've been having a blast with it. Double Neighslayers does seem to be the key. Your game went a lot like mine seem to.. a lot of grindyness, but they always seem to be fun and have a lot of flexibility. Clearly you can crack armor with the list as that khador list was hard as nails! Aside from the tree, try to play with a trapperkin as well sometime, they are extremely fun with a 4 armor swing. Our lists are different, but I think the baseline is it needs 2 full neighslayers and 2 units of stuff to get in the way. Something I don't think he can handle though... phantom hunter/awareness. Playing Kaelyssa is a running away game, and same with sevy2. Good thing we have Dark Menagerie for stuff like that . That said I have pulled crabbits out at this point, so maybe with 2 crabbits he can survive. I think he'd rather just go into good matchups though.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 7, 2017 0:36:55 GMT
Glad to see you liked it better with Bump, I've been having a blast with it. Double Neighslayers does seem to be the key. Your game went a lot like mine seem to.. a lot of grindyness, but they always seem to be fun and have a lot of flexibility. Clearly you can crack armor with the list as that khador list was hard as nails! Aside from the tree, try to play with a trapperkin as well sometime, they are extremely fun with a 4 armor swing. Our lists are different, but I think the baseline is it needs 2 full neighslayers and 2 units of stuff to get in the way. Something I don't think he can handle though... phantom hunter/awareness. Playing Kaelyssa is a running away game, and same with sevy2. Good thing we have Dark Menagerie for stuff like that . That said I have pulled crabbits out at this point, so maybe with 2 crabbits he can survive. I think he'd rather just go into good matchups though. Just played it into Karchev with seven heavies and basically tabled it, with a near full unit of neighslayers, cage rager, and a recurring unit of Dread Rots with the sisters left. That being said, it was babymachine so I almost clocked. Batrep coming tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by LoS Jaden on Sept 7, 2017 22:26:52 GMT
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