studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Oct 4, 2017 2:10:23 GMT
i rescind my previous statement. i will be dropping a drudge unit to min to add two machine wraiths, for flag duty. i tested it and i liked it. i even had a chance to posses a warjack out of a zone, but i was gonna win on that turn regardless.
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Post by smartalek on Oct 4, 2017 19:21:29 GMT
I played the Cyphon list below last night. I ended up assassinating Kaelyssa, but ultimately I shouldn't have won that game since Cyphon really hates control casters.
I was pleasantly surprised by the Bloat Thrall and Mobius. I didn't use them to corrode my monstrosities as I planned, and instead they took out sentinels pretty much on their own. Machine wraiths were pretty good at being 'beacon's for bloat thrall shots, and for contesting. Against a list with fewer magic guns they can also sit in front of your heavies and help absorb the alpha.
I wasn't a huge fan of 4 Wardens though. Having the shield guards helped protect the bloats and wraiths on the approach, but they don't really do enough work when it's not feat turn.
Mercenary - cyphon bloats
Theme: Operating Theater 1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Cognifex Cyphon - WJ: +29 - Wrecker - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Wrecker - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Warden - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 1) - Warden - PC: 10 - Warden - PC: 10 - Warden - PC: 10
Cephalyx Agitator - PC: 3 Cephalyx Agitator - PC: 3 Cephalyx Agitator - PC: 3 Bloat Thrall Overseer Mobius - PC: 6 Bloat Thrall - PC: 4 Machine Wraith - PC: 2 Machine Wraith - PC: 2
Cephalyx Dominator - PC: 1 - Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5 Cephalyx Mind Bender & Drudges - Mind Bender & 5 Drudge Grunts: 7 Cephalyx Overlords - Leader & 2 Grunts: 0
THEME: Operating Theater
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Post by supersoldier86 on Oct 12, 2017 7:13:52 GMT
That's a lot of solos.
How do you find only using one unit if drudges?
I'm new to cephalyx,haven't played any games yet as I'm still painting my hprde
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Whiskie
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Post by Whiskie on Oct 12, 2017 7:54:59 GMT
Cyphon pulls off small numbers of Drudges a lot better than Thexus does in my experience.
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Post by smartalek on Oct 12, 2017 20:26:08 GMT
That's a lot of solos. How do you find only using one unit if drudges? I'm new to cephalyx,haven't played any games yet as I'm still painting my hprde The drudge unit usually hangs back. They're mostly there for Cyphon's range amplifier. This list won't be scoring circular zones until later in the game anyway, at which point what's left of the drudges and eliminators can be used to score. I have thought about shifting the points to fit in a unit of slavers for ambushing. But the bloats and wraiths are what I'm testing now. Edit: I forgot about the unit of Overlords since the theme update now lets me take them for free as well. They can also score those circular zones when necessary.
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Post by necromeat on Oct 31, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
So I am most likely going to be running Thexus Drudge spam into Ossyan with mage hunter strike force tonight. I feel like this is going to be an exceedingly difficult match up to say the least.
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Post by smartalek on Nov 1, 2017 0:25:55 GMT
So I am most likely going to be running Thexus Drudge spam into Ossyan with mage hunter strike force tonight. I feel like this is going to be an exceedingly difficult match up to say the least. Report back so we can all learn from your sacrifice.
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Post by gobber on Nov 1, 2017 20:40:19 GMT
There's an unexpected buff for Cyphon in today's CID; his breath stealer spell can now be cast more than once per turn
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Haight
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Post by Haight on Nov 3, 2017 19:04:12 GMT
Good to know! Not sure if its enough to get me put put Cyphon on the table over Thexus, but still, that's a nice buff.
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Post by necromeat on Nov 16, 2017 13:59:00 GMT
Good day to you all. So, my game vs Ossyan, we both found out that mage hunter strike force doesn't quite cut it when facing over 60 models. I am pretty excited about that. I am now living the sweet 6 drudge units life. The two machine wraiths are also fantastic. Highly suggest you give them a go if you haven't yet. I am also pairing Thexus with Ossrum for lack of a better idea currently.
I am finally coming back around to Cyphon. I got a list, I just need to check on if I have enough monstrosity models to begin testing it. It has zero drudges. That's right, zero. Its gonna get weird. I will report my experiences back once I have tested it a few times.
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Nov 19, 2017 2:51:51 GMT
Good to know! Not sure if its enough to get me put put Cyphon on the table over Thexus, but still, that's a nice buff. I mean, this isn't an issue as long as your running Thexus and Cyphon as your pair.
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ptach
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Post by ptach on Jan 10, 2018 23:38:41 GMT
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Post by smartalek on Jan 12, 2018 0:58:22 GMT
I've found that in the current Scenario environment you probably want 3 heavies with Thexus. I'd swap out a Bender unit for a Warden or Subduer. The Cyphon list looks fun, but I never found the need for Max Benders with him. Dropping that unit to min gives you 4 more points, which you could use to upgrade a Subduer to a Wrecker and still add another Machine Wraith (since you're down a point).
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ptach
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Post by ptach on Feb 24, 2018 5:19:06 GMT
Hey there, has anyone tryied to play the common Thexus dudespam list with Cyphon instead of Thexus?
Cyphon - 2x Wrecker 2x Agitator 2x Machine Wraith 3x full Bender 2x full Slaver 1x small Slaver 2x Overlords
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Post by gedditoffme on Feb 24, 2018 9:37:35 GMT
Hey there, has anyone tryied to play the common Thexus dudespam list with Cyphon instead of Thexus? Cyphon - 2x Wrecker 2x Agitator 2x Machine Wraith 3x full Bender 2x full Slaver 1x small Slaver 2x Overlords Question would be why? Cyphon does a lot more for monstrosity than drudges, and needs at least a moderate battle group presence
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